From tleanza at ameritech.net  Thu Jul  3 18:35:22 2008
From: tleanza at ameritech.net (Tami Leanza)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:35:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] Details for Reunion in Cleveland
Message-ID: <155418.91394.qm@web83311.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hi I am just trying to see if messages are coming thru on the TI list. I don't think they are and I have checked for blocked messages.
Tami Leanza


----- Original Message ----
From: Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com>
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 8:31:57 PM
Subject: [TI] Details for Reunion in Cleveland

The details are pretty much finalized now for the reunion.? You can see 
all of the details online on the website.

IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING, you need to click on the link REUNION 
2008 and let? us know how many will be attending as well as if you plan 
on attending the Saturday night dinner and how many in your party for 
that as well.

http://www.termini-imerese.org/Reunion/2008Cleveland/Reunion01.htm

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From rngade57 at madisontelco.com  Thu Jul  3 19:11:29 2008
From: rngade57 at madisontelco.com (Laura Johnson)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:11:29 -0500
Subject: [TI] Details for Reunion in Cleveland
In-Reply-To: <155418.91394.qm@web83311.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <155418.91394.qm@web83311.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <486CFA31.3020600@madisontelco.com>

The list is working fine..........just been very quiet

Tami Leanza wrote:
> Hi I am just trying to see if messages are coming thru on the TI list. I don't think they are and I have checked for blocked messages.
> Tami Leanza
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com>
> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 8:31:57 PM
> Subject: [TI] Details for Reunion in Cleveland
>
> The details are pretty much finalized now for the reunion.  You can see 
> all of the details online on the website.
>
> IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING, you need to click on the link REUNION 
> 2008 and let  us know how many will be attending as well as if you plan 
> on attending the Saturday night dinner and how many in your party for 
> that as well.
>
> http://www.termini-imerese.org/Reunion/2008Cleveland/Reunion01.htm
>
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From sreif1956 at comcast.net  Fri Jul  4 01:37:35 2008
From: sreif1956 at comcast.net (sreif1956 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:37:35 +0000
Subject: [TI] Cook County, Illinois
Message-ID: <070320082237.16439.486D54AF0000CDCB000040372209229927C0CAC7CE00070A9D9C@comcast.net>

Happy 4th....

celebrate by visiting the new website for Cook County...www.cookcountygenealogy.com

look up birth, marriage and death records....and order copies, too.

happy hunting

Sharon Reif



From acm605 at comcast.net  Fri Jul  4 03:01:51 2008
From: acm605 at comcast.net (Tony Massaro)
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:01:51 +0000
Subject: [TI] Cook County, Illinois
Message-ID: <070420080001.17034.486D686F00065DB20000428A2213575333CACFC0030C0E@comcast.net>

i didn't know this was available. tried it. found my grandmother birth certificate from 1908. missing a lot of people though. i tried a lot of different spellings. thanks

--
Tony Massaro
acm605 at comcast.net

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
> Happy 4th....
> 
> celebrate by visiting the new website for Cook 
> County...www.cookcountygenealogy.com
> 
> look up birth, marriage and death records....and order copies, too.
> 
> happy hunting
> 
> Sharon Reif
> 
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From tleanza at ameritech.net  Fri Jul  4 05:30:20 2008
From: tleanza at ameritech.net (Tami Leanza)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:30:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] Details for Reunion in Cleveland
Message-ID: <84969.38394.qm@web83314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Laura,
Thank you I thought it wasnt working. This film is wrong in the database. This is my great grandfathers (Antonio) ?brother Vincenzo birthday. Its not Stefano's. 
59 Nascite September 29, 1879 2014203 627 Teresi, Stefano Teresi, Stefano Marcellino, Salvatora . . . Informant - Giuseppa Raffo, age 30; child's name in Index incorrectly given as Vincenzo 

Alias:<ALIA> /Jim/
Teresi Vincenzo 
Address: 1315 Orange Ave., Cleveland, Ohio 
1630846-Vol. 60, pg. 50 Court of CommonPleas, Cuyahoga County, Cleveland, Ohio 
Born: Italy Sept. 29, 1879 
Date and Port: March 22, 1900, New York 
Naturalized: Oct. 6, 1921 
Witnesses: John C. Polito, 1397 E. 82 St. Joe Madda, 1123 Orange Ave. 
Notes: 14700 Soundex: T620 

Salvatore Teresi birthday is as follow:
161 Nascite July 5, 1882 2014203 440 Teresi, Salvatore Teresi, Stefano Marcellino, Salvatora .?? Informant - Giuseppa DiDomenico, age 56; margin note: married Sept. 12, 1912 in TI to Maria Coppola, daughter of Mariano 
I still need to find any info on Stefano Teresi. I do know he was born in 1856 in Termini and died 26 Jul 1899
if anyone on the list knows if he had sibling or who his parents are let me know. His father was Antonio Teresi and his mother was Unknown Salemi. 
Tami Leanza

ginal Message ----
From: Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com>
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 12:11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TI] Details for Reunion in Cleveland

The list is working fine..........just been very quiet

Tami Leanza wrote:
> Hi I am just trying to see if messages are coming thru on the TI list. I don't think they are and I have checked for blocked messages.
> Tami Leanza
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com>
> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 8:31:57 PM
> Subject: [TI] Details for Reunion in Cleveland
>
> The details are pretty much finalized now for the reunion.? You can see 
> all of the details online on the website.
>
> IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING, you need to click on the link REUNION 
> 2008 and let? us know how many will be attending as well as if you plan 
> on attending the Saturday night dinner and how many in your party for 
> that as well.
>
> http://www.termini-imerese.org/Reunion/2008Cleveland/Reunion01.htm
>
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From rngade57 at madisontelco.com  Fri Jul  4 05:56:58 2008
From: rngade57 at madisontelco.com (Laura Johnson)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:56:58 -0500
Subject: [TI] Details for Reunion in Cleveland
In-Reply-To: <84969.38394.qm@web83314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <84969.38394.qm@web83314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <486D917A.3030106@madisontelco.com>

Tami

The database entry is CORRECT.  The first name listed in the margin 
states it was Vincenzo but the actual document states the child was 
given the name of STEFANO

Tami Leanza wrote:
> Laura,
> Thank you I thought it wasnt working. This film is wrong in the database. This is my great grandfathers (Antonio)  brother Vincenzo birthday. Its not Stefano's. 
> 59 Nascite September 29, 1879 2014203 627 Teresi, Stefano Teresi, Stefano Marcellino, Salvatora . . . Informant - Giuseppa Raffo, age 30; child's name in Index incorrectly given as Vincenzo 
>
> Alias:<ALIA> /Jim/
> Teresi Vincenzo 
> Address: 1315 Orange Ave., Cleveland, Ohio 
> 1630846-Vol. 60, pg. 50 Court of CommonPleas, Cuyahoga County, Cleveland, Ohio 
> Born: Italy Sept. 29, 1879 
> Date and Port: March 22, 1900, New York 
> Naturalized: Oct. 6, 1921 
> Witnesses: John C. Polito, 1397 E. 82 St. Joe Madda, 1123 Orange Ave. 
> Notes: 14700 Soundex: T620 
>
> Salvatore Teresi birthday is as follow:
> 161 Nascite July 5, 1882 2014203 440 Teresi, Salvatore Teresi, Stefano Marcellino, Salvatora .   Informant - Giuseppa DiDomenico, age 56; margin note: married Sept. 12, 1912 in TI to Maria Coppola, daughter of Mariano 
> I still need to find any info on Stefano Teresi. I do know he was born in 1856 in Termini and died 26 Jul 1899
> if anyone on the list knows if he had sibling or who his parents are let me know. His father was Antonio Teresi and his mother was Unknown Salemi. 
> Tami Leanza
>
> ginal Message ----
> From: Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com>
> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 12:11:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [TI] Details for Reunion in Cleveland
>
> The list is working fine..........just been very quiet
>
> Tami Leanza wrote:
>   
>> Hi I am just trying to see if messages are coming thru on the TI list. I don't think they are and I have checked for blocked messages.
>> Tami Leanza
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com>
>> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 8:31:57 PM
>> Subject: [TI] Details for Reunion in Cleveland
>>
>> The details are pretty much finalized now for the reunion.  You can see 
>> all of the details online on the website.
>>
>> IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING, you need to click on the link REUNION 
>> 2008 and let  us know how many will be attending as well as if you plan 
>> on attending the Saturday night dinner and how many in your party for 
>> that as well.
>>
>> http://www.termini-imerese.org/Reunion/2008Cleveland/Reunion01.htm
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> TerminiImerese mailing list
>> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org
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From tleanza at ameritech.net  Fri Jul  4 23:30:51 2008
From: tleanza at ameritech.net (Tami Leanza)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:30:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] (no subject)
Message-ID: <152520.52742.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Ok Thank you


----- Original Message ----
From: Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com>
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 10:56:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TI] Details for Reunion in Cleveland

Tami

The database entry is CORRECT.? The first name listed in the margin 
states it was Vincenzo but the actual document states the child was 
given the name of STEFANO

Tami Leanza wrote:
> Laura,
> Thank you I thought it wasnt working. This film is wrong in the database. This is my great grandfathers (Antonio)? brother Vincenzo birthday. Its not Stefano's. 
> 59 Nascite September 29, 1879 2014203 627 Teresi, Stefano Teresi, Stefano Marcellino, Salvatora . . . Informant - Giuseppa Raffo, age 30; child's name in Index incorrectly given as Vincenzo 
>
> Alias:<ALIA> /Jim/
> Teresi Vincenzo 
> Address: 1315 Orange Ave., Cleveland, Ohio 
> 1630846-Vol. 60, pg. 50 Court of CommonPleas, Cuyahoga County, Cleveland, Ohio 
> Born: Italy Sept. 29, 1879 
> Date and Port: March 22, 1900, New York 
> Naturalized: Oct. 6, 1921 
> Witnesses: John C. Polito, 1397 E. 82 St. Joe Madda, 1123 Orange Ave. 
> Notes: 14700 Soundex: T620 
>
> Salvatore Teresi birthday is as follow:
> 161 Nascite July 5, 1882 2014203 440 Teresi, Salvatore Teresi, Stefano Marcellino, Salvatora .? Informant - Giuseppa DiDomenico, age 56; margin note: married Sept. 12, 1912 in TI to Maria Coppola, daughter of Mariano 
> I still need to find any info on Stefano Teresi. I do know he was born in 1856 in Termini and died 26 Jul 1899
> if anyone on the list knows if he had sibling or who his parents are let me know. His father was Antonio Teresi and his mother was Unknown Salemi. 
> Tami Leanza
>
> ginal Message ----
> From: Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com>
> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 12:11:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [TI] Details for Reunion in Cleveland
>
> The list is working fine..........just been very quiet
>
> Tami Leanza wrote:
>? 
>> Hi I am just trying to see if messages are coming thru on the TI list. I don't think they are and I have checked for blocked messages.
>> Tami Leanza
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com>
>> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 8:31:57 PM
>> Subject: [TI] Details for Reunion in Cleveland
>>
>> The details are pretty much finalized now for the reunion.? You can see 
>> all of the details online on the website.
>>
>> IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING, you need to click on the link REUNION 
>> 2008 and let? us know how many will be attending as well as if you plan 
>> on attending the Saturday night dinner and how many in your party for 
>> that as well.
>>
>> http://www.termini-imerese.org/Reunion/2008Cleveland/Reunion01.htm
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> TerminiImerese mailing list
>> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
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From jimhmc at comcast.net  Sat Jul  5 18:12:40 2008
From: jimhmc at comcast.net (Jim McCarthy)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 11:12:40 -0400
Subject: [TI] Cook County, Illinois
References: <070320082237.16439.486D54AF0000CDCB000040372209229927C0CAC7CE00070A9D9C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <01f201c8deb1$91196f40$6401a8c0@mccarthy>

Thank you for this URL.  Jim McCarthy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <sreif1956 at comcast.net>
To: "Termini list" <TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:37 PM
Subject: [TI] Cook County, Illinois


> Happy 4th....
>
> celebrate by visiting the new website for Cook 
> County...www.cookcountygenealogy.com
>
> look up birth, marriage and death records....and order copies, too.
>
> happy hunting
>
> Sharon Reif
>
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From anniegoe at access995.com  Sun Jul  6 22:46:33 2008
From: anniegoe at access995.com (anniegoe)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 15:46:33 -0400
Subject: [TI] Cook County, Illinois
References: <070320082237.16439.486D54AF0000CDCB000040372209229927C0CAC7CE00070A9D9C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000e01c8dfa0$ff654f10$226f4845@DJZBSK81>

When I put it in the search engine it says it does not exist.
www.cookcountygenealogy.com
ann
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <sreif1956 at comcast.net>
To: "Termini list" <TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:37 PM
Subject: [TI] Cook County, Illinois


> Happy 4th....
>
> celebrate by visiting the new website for Cook 
> County...www.cookcountygenealogy.com
>
> look up birth, marriage and death records....and order copies, too.
>
> happy hunting
>
> Sharon Reif
>
> _______________________________________________
> TerminiImerese mailing list
> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
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From tleanza at ameritech.net  Mon Jul  7 00:35:21 2008
From: tleanza at ameritech.net (Tami Leanza)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 14:35:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] Cook County, Illinois
Message-ID: <839227.53692.qm@web83315.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Ann 
I clicked on the website link below and it came up for me with no problem.
Tami Leanza


----- Original Message ----
From: anniegoe <anniegoe at access995.com>
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2008 3:46:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TI] Cook County, Illinois

When I put it in the search engine it says it does not exist.
www.cookcountygenealogy.com
ann
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <sreif1956 at comcast.net>
To: "Termini list" <TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:37 PM
Subject: [TI] Cook County, Illinois


> Happy 4th....
>
> celebrate by visiting the new website for Cook 
> County...www.cookcountygenealogy.com
>
> look up birth, marriage and death records....and order copies, too.
>
> happy hunting
>
> Sharon Reif
>
> _______________________________________________
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From camrose123 at comcast.net  Mon Jul  7 01:09:09 2008
From: camrose123 at comcast.net (rose)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 18:09:09 -0400
Subject: [TI] Cleveland-sharing a room
References: <mailman.4.1215277203.4723.terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org@comunesofitaly.org>
Message-ID: <003501c8dfb4$ea73bce0$052dcf47@yourc44d19af4e>

Hi,
  Since Madeliene and I won't be sharing a room this year,I will need a 
roommate.She is staying with her cousin Tim.
   Please contact me at: camrose123 at comcast.net
           Rose Campise

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From gotto at ameritech.net  Mon Jul  7 01:51:57 2008
From: gotto at ameritech.net (Gloria Otto)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 15:51:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] Fw:  Cook County, Illinois
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n all explorer windows, wait a few seconds and then open a new explorer win=
dow. It usually works for me after that. =0AGood luck.=A0=0AGloria =0A=0A--=
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From anniegoe at access995.com  Mon Jul  7 15:56:41 2008
From: anniegoe at access995.com (anniegoe)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 08:56:41 -0400
Subject: [TI] Cleveland-sharing a room
References: <mailman.4.1215277203.4723.terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org@comunesofitaly.org>
	<003501c8dfb4$ea73bce0$052dcf47@yourc44d19af4e>
Message-ID: <001001c8e030$e7a12990$256e4845@DJZBSK81>


If if if, I would come for Friday I could share that night.
Ann
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From: "rose" <camrose123 at comcast.net>
To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TI] Cleveland-sharing a room


> Hi,
>  Since Madeliene and I won't be sharing a room this year,I will need a
> roommate.She is staying with her cousin Tim.
>   Please contact me at: camrose123 at comcast.net
>           Rose Campise
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From tcorso at lecom.edu  Mon Jul  7 17:42:14 2008
From: tcorso at lecom.edu (Thomas Corso, PhD)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:42:14 -0400
Subject: [TI] Cook County, Illinois and Illinois Index
References: <070420080001.17034.486D686F00065DB20000428A2213575333CACFC0030C0E@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CDD4F4A6F1CAE84F86242644AD42B1D7F528A3@mailserver.lecomintra.net>

Tony,

If you have not already tried it, take a look at the Illinois Index, it
is more complete than the Cook County site.  

http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/idphdeathindex.ht
ml

I have found a lot of things here that are not listed in the Cook County
site, however, I have also found things in the Cook County site that are
not in the Illinois site.

I plan to take a trip to Chicago this week to take a look at the
archives.  I'll let you know how accessible they are.

Tom 

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Tony
Massaro
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:02 PM
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Subject: Re: [TI] Cook County, Illinois

i didn't know this was available. tried it. found my grandmother birth
certificate from 1908. missing a lot of people though. i tried a lot of
different spellings. thanks

--
Tony Massaro
acm605 at comcast.net

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
> Happy 4th....
> 
> celebrate by visiting the new website for Cook 
> County...www.cookcountygenealogy.com
> 
> look up birth, marriage and death records....and order copies, too.
> 
> happy hunting
> 
> Sharon Reif
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From rngade57 at madisontelco.com  Tue Jul  8 13:25:45 2008
From: rngade57 at madisontelco.com (Laura Johnson)
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 05:25:45 -0500
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Seeking Advice For Room in Termini/Palermo]
Message-ID: <487340A9.2060400@madisontelco.com>

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Seeking Advice For Room in Termini/Palermo
Date: 	Tue, 8 Jul 2008 03:16:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: 	Charlie Lamento <trial_law at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: 	trial_law at yahoo.com
To: 	terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org



Good Morning members of the Termini Imerese community. 
My name is Charlie Lamento (Lamantia) and I am the great grandson of 
Giueseppe Lamantia and Ignazia Besesi of Termini Imerese.  I am 
presently living in Prague and planning to visit Palermo and Termini for 
a few weeks beginning in the next few days.  Does any member know of 
anyone or anywhere I could stay in Sicily?  I am a single guy looking to 
stay in Sicily for a few weeks to improve my Italian language and locate 
relatives... Your help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

God Bless,

Charlie






From gotto at ameritech.net  Tue Jul  8 19:47:53 2008
From: gotto at ameritech.net (Gloria Otto)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 09:47:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Seeking Advice For Room in Termini/Palermo]
Message-ID: <279901.54241.qm@web81806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Charlie,
The Hotel Il Gabbiano is a nice hotel, near the train station and offers many services. If?Francesco Di Stefano is still there he speaks some English and is very helpful. They have a great web site. You may want to explore all the links on their home page: Termini story, special discounts, and you can see exactly what the cost is for your reservation? as well as make your reservations online at no cost. Their e-mail address is:
hotelgabbiano at hotelgabbiano.it
I have attached my last emails with Francesco so you can see that he writes well in English and seems to be friendly and kind.
Good luck! Let us know if you have further questions.
Gloria
http://www.hotelgabbiano.it/tariffe.php?lang=eng
Hotel Il Gabbiano
via Libert?, 221
90018 Termini Imerese - Palermo - ITALY
P.I.:03458220823
tel. +390918113262 (4 pbx) fax +390918114225
From: Hotel Il Gabbiano [mailto:hotelgabbiano at hotelgabbiano.it] 
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 5:25 AM
To: Gloria Otto
Subject: R: The city
?
???????? Hello Gloria, 
???????? many tanks for your mail !!! 
???????? In my Web site go to: http://www.hotelgabbiano.it/termini_eng.htm 
???????? for information of Termini Imerese.
???????? The Web site (Italian and English Versions) is to: www.hotelgabbiano.it? 
???????? Best Regards and "Bacioni" from Francesco, 
?
???????? Francesco Di Stefano 
?
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Gloria Otto [mailto:gotto at ameritech.net]
Inviato: domenica 14 marzo 2004 4.04
A: hotelgabbiano at hotelgabbiano.it
Oggetto: The city
Hi Francesco
?
Come stai?
?
Do you have a description of the city on your web site.? I cannot find it.? It was so good in 2002.
?
Gloria 

?Gloria


----- Original Message ----
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To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 5:25:45 AM
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Seeking Advice For Room in Termini/Palermo]

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Subject: ??? Seeking Advice For Room in Termini/Palermo
Date: ??? Tue, 8 Jul 2008 03:16:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: ??? Charlie Lamento <trial_law at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: ??? trial_law at yahoo.com
To: ??? terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org



Good Morning members of the Termini Imerese community. 
My name is Charlie Lamento (Lamantia) and I am the great grandson of 
Giueseppe Lamantia and Ignazia Besesi of Termini Imerese.? I am 
presently living in Prague and planning to visit Palermo and Termini for 
a few weeks beginning in the next few days.? Does any member know of 
anyone or anywhere I could stay in Sicily?? I am a single guy looking to 
stay in Sicily for a few weeks to improve my Italian language and locate 
relatives... Your help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

God Bless,

Charlie




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From gotto at ameritech.net  Tue Jul  8 19:51:45 2008
From: gotto at ameritech.net (Gloria Otto)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 09:51:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] Cook County, Illinois
Message-ID: <755315.57103.qm@web81806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Ann, I get that does not exist message when my computer is over worked with too many commands or windows open. Try it again later and/ or close down all explorer windows, wait a few seconds and then open a new explorer window. It usually works for me after that. You probably have it working by now.
Good luck. 
Gloria 
?
----- Original Message ----
From: anniegoe <anniegoe at access995.com>
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2008 2:46:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TI] Cook County, Illinois

When I put it in the search engine it says it does not exist.
www.cookcountygenealogy.com
ann
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To: "Termini list" <TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:37 PM
Subject: [TI] Cook County, Illinois


> Happy 4th....
>
> celebrate by visiting the new website for Cook 
> County...www.cookcountygenealogy.com
>
> look up birth, marriage and death records....and order copies, too.
>
> happy hunting
>
> Sharon Reif
>
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From anncat1029 at roadrunner.com  Wed Jul  9 04:16:59 2008
From: anncat1029 at roadrunner.com (Ann Catalano)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:16:59 -0400
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Seeking Advice For Room in Termini/Palermo]
In-Reply-To: <487340A9.2060400@madisontelco.com>
Message-ID: <20080709011504.ZAEQ7723.mta13.adelphia.net@homelgpuznx0ss>

Charlie -

I stayed at Il Gabbiano when I was in Termini last summer, as have others on
this list.  It is a little ways out of town but I found it to be a very nice
hotel.  The staff was very accommodating and the food at the restaurant was
the best I had on my trip to Italy.

Enjoy your visit.

Ann Catalano

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Laura
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:26 AM
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Seeking Advice For Room in Termini/Palermo]

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Seeking Advice For Room in Termini/Palermo
Date: 	Tue, 8 Jul 2008 03:16:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: 	Charlie Lamento <trial_law at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: 	trial_law at yahoo.com
To: 	terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org



Good Morning members of the Termini Imerese community. 
My name is Charlie Lamento (Lamantia) and I am the great grandson of 
Giueseppe Lamantia and Ignazia Besesi of Termini Imerese.  I am 
presently living in Prague and planning to visit Palermo and Termini for 
a few weeks beginning in the next few days.  Does any member know of 
anyone or anywhere I could stay in Sicily?  I am a single guy looking to 
stay in Sicily for a few weeks to improve my Italian language and locate 
relatives... Your help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

God Bless,

Charlie




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From rngade57 at madisontelco.com  Wed Jul  9 04:20:20 2008
From: rngade57 at madisontelco.com (Laura Johnson)
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:20:20 -0500
Subject: [TI] Cleveland Raunion
In-Reply-To: <20080709011504.ZAEQ7723.mta13.adelphia.net@homelgpuznx0ss>
References: <20080709011504.ZAEQ7723.mta13.adelphia.net@homelgpuznx0ss>
Message-ID: <48741254.3000503@madisontelco.com>

If you are planning on attending the reunion in Cleveland, we need to 
know so that we can get an idea of how many to expect, etc.  Send me an 
email at Laura at termini-imerese.org and let me know how many in your 
group and if you are going to the dinner on Saturday night



From gotto at ameritech.net  Wed Jul  9 06:29:24 2008
From: gotto at ameritech.net (Gloria Otto)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:29:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Seeking Advice For Room in Termini/Palermo]
Message-ID: <587288.89379.qm@web81805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Charlie,
The Hotel Il Gabbiano is a nice hotel, near the train station and offers many services. If?Francesco Di Stefano is still there he speaks some English and is very helpful. They have a great web site. You may want to explore all the links on their home page: Termini story, special discounts, and you can see exactly what the cost is for your reservation? as well as make your reservations online at no cost. Their e-mail address is:
hotelgabbiano at hotelgabbiano.it
I have attached my last emails with Francesco so you can see that he writes well in English and seems to be friendly and kind.
Good luck! Let us know if you have further questions.
Gloria
http://www.hotelgabbiano.it/tariffe.php?lang=eng
Hotel Il Gabbiano
via Libert?, 221
90018 Termini Imerese - Palermo - ITALY
P.I.:03458220823
tel. +390918113262 (4 pbx) fax +390918114225
From: Hotel Il Gabbiano [mailto:hotelgabbiano at hotelgabbiano.it] 
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 5:25 AM
To: Gloria Otto
Subject: R: The city
?
???????? Hello Gloria, 
???????? many tanks for your mail !!! 
???????? In my Web site go to: http://www.hotelgabbiano.it/termini_eng.htm 
???????? for information of Termini Imerese.
???????? The Web site (Italian and English Versions) is to: www.hotelgabbiano.it? 
???????? Best Regards and "Bacioni" from Francesco, 
?
???????? Francesco Di Stefano 
?
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Gloria Otto [mailto:gotto at ameritech.net]
Inviato: domenica 14 marzo 2004 4.04
A: hotelgabbiano at hotelgabbiano.it
Oggetto: The city
Hi Francesco
?
Come stai?
?
Do you have a description of the city on your web site.? I cannot find it.? It was so good in 2002.
?
Gloria?


?Gloria


----- Original Message ----
From: Ann Catalano <anncat1029 at roadrunner.com>
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 8:16:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Seeking Advice For Room in Termini/Palermo]

Charlie -

I stayed at Il Gabbiano when I was in Termini last summer, as have others on
this list.? It is a little ways out of town but I found it to be a very nice
hotel.? The staff was very accommodating and the food at the restaurant was
the best I had on my trip to Italy.

Enjoy your visit.

Ann Catalano

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Laura
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:26 AM
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Seeking Advice For Room in Termini/Palermo]

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: ??? Seeking Advice For Room in Termini/Palermo
Date: ??? Tue, 8 Jul 2008 03:16:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: ??? Charlie Lamento <trial_law at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: ??? trial_law at yahoo.com
To: ??? terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org



Good Morning members of the Termini Imerese community. 
My name is Charlie Lamento (Lamantia) and I am the great grandson of 
Giueseppe Lamantia and Ignazia Besesi of Termini Imerese.? I am 
presently living in Prague and planning to visit Palermo and Termini for 
a few weeks beginning in the next few days.? Does any member know of 
anyone or anywhere I could stay in Sicily?? I am a single guy looking to 
stay in Sicily for a few weeks to improve my Italian language and locate 
relatives... Your help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

God Bless,

Charlie




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From mgill494 at rogers.com  Wed Jul  9 15:31:49 2008
From: mgill494 at rogers.com (M GILL)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 05:31:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] Cleveland Raunion
Message-ID: <298238.62393.qm@web65102.mail.ac2.yahoo.com>

Laura I am attending and going to the dinner on Saturday night.
Madeleine

----- Original Message ----
From: Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com>
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 5:20:20 PM
Subject: [TI] Cleveland Raunion

If you are planning on attending the reunion in Cleveland, we need to 
know so that we can get an idea of how many to expect, etc.  Send me an 
email at Laura at termini-imerese.org and let me know how many in your 
group and if you are going to the dinner on Saturday night

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From rngade57 at madisontelco.com  Fri Jul 11 01:31:44 2008
From: rngade57 at madisontelco.com (Laura Johnson)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:31:44 -0500
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: What Would Be a Good Town Near Termini To Stay While
 Visiting Termini?]
Message-ID: <48768DD0.1090103@madisontelco.com>

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	What Would Be a Good Town Near Termini To Stay While Visiting 
Termini?
Date: 	Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:54:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: 	Charlie Lamento <trial_law at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: 	trial_law at yahoo.com
To: 	terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org



Greetings, would anyone know of a place to stay in a village or town 
that is located near Termini where one person could stay that is cheaper 
then staying in Termini?  Your advice is appreciated.  Ciao, Charlie Lamento
P.S. I am traveling to Sicily next week. 






From camrose123 at comcast.net  Fri Jul 11 02:29:08 2008
From: camrose123 at comcast.net (rose)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:29:08 -0400
Subject: [TI] Cleveland Raunion- need a roommate
References: <298238.62393.qm@web65102.mail.ac2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002d01c8e2e4$c101a330$052dcf47@yourc44d19af4e>

Hi,
  Madeliene in I won't be rooming together because she will be staying with 
her cousin.Is there anyone who wants to share a room?
   Camrose123 at comcast.net
          Rose

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "M GILL" <mgill494 at rogers.com>
To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [TI] Cleveland Raunion


> Laura I am attending and going to the dinner on Saturday night.
> Madeleine
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com>
> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 5:20:20 PM
> Subject: [TI] Cleveland Raunion
>
> If you are planning on attending the reunion in Cleveland, we need to
> know so that we can get an idea of how many to expect, etc.  Send me an
> email at Laura at termini-imerese.org and let me know how many in your
> group and if you are going to the dinner on Saturday night
>
> _______________________________________________
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> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
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From gentracekirkpatrick at jiwire-member.com  Fri Jul 11 05:34:14 2008
From: gentracekirkpatrick at jiwire-member.com (Kathy Kirkpatrick)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:34:14 -0600
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: What Would Be a Good Town Near Termini To Stay While
	Visiting Termini?]
In-Reply-To: <48768DD0.1090103@madisontelco.com>
Message-ID: <PIENLBOKPJLMNBMPIHGIIEHGCCAA.gentracer@gentracer.com>

Hi all,

I've stayed in Palermo and Campofelice di Roccella and Cefalu, all were less
expensive than Termini but only Cefalu was just as nice (tourist place
out-of-season). A good place to look for lodging is www.enit.it and
http://www.bed-and-breakfast-in-italy.com/bed_and_breakfast_palermo.cfm and
www.palermotourism.com. Hard to get a good deal during the Summer. Have fun!

Kathy Kirkpatrick
GenTracer
PO Box 11955
Salt Lake City, UT 84147
801 755 6991
www.gentracer.com
gentracer at gentracer.com

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org]On Behalf Of Laura
Johnson
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:32 PM
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: What Would Be a Good Town Near Termini To Stay While
Visiting Termini?]


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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	What Would Be a Good Town Near Termini To Stay While Visiting
Termini?
Date: 	Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:54:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: 	Charlie Lamento <trial_law at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: 	trial_law at yahoo.com
To: 	terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org



Greetings, would anyone know of a place to stay in a village or town
that is located near Termini where one person could stay that is cheaper
then staying in Termini?  Your advice is appreciated.  Ciao, Charlie Lamento
P.S. I am traveling to Sicily next week.




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From tskibiski at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 13 23:15:56 2008
From: tskibiski at yahoo.com (Terry Skibiski)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:15:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] wills
Message-ID: <570288.37187.qm@web35404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have a question I'm sure somebody out there can answer.  If a man (in the U.S.) lived and wrote his will in county A, but died in a hospital in county B, where would the record of the will be found, in county A, where it was written, or county B, where his death certificate is issued?

Thanks,
Terry


      



From sreif1956 at comcast.net  Mon Jul 14 00:07:07 2008
From: sreif1956 at comcast.net (sreif1956 at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:07:07 +0000
Subject: [TI] wills
Message-ID: <071320082107.28317.487A6E7B0004162900006E9D2206824693C0CAC7CE00070A9D9C@comcast.net>

Terry, 

 the orginial will would be found as filed in County A, as it had to be witnessed and certified in that county.  It may, however, have been copied to County B records, since the will had to be executed in that county, due to family situations that requested such, along with the death certificate.  If all this happened after a certain date (usually about 1910 or afterwards, depending on the state that the person lived in) there may be notations with the filing of the state death certificate in the state.  In short...look at both places.

I am in the process of getting probate records in St. Louis for those in my family with no wills, and I'll let you know if I find anything in those that may help you out.  I need to find out who obtained ownership of all those Saturday Night Specials and Tommy guns used by the family...I have found the family member who now owns Uncle Tony's (The Hand) three pistols used in some very questionable incidents....not telling any more information about that...the family businesses are all legit now, so I have been told.

Sharon Reif
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Terry Skibiski <tskibiski at yahoo.com>
> I have a question I'm sure somebody out there can answer.  If a man (in the 
> U.S.) lived and wrote his will in county A, but died in a hospital in county B, 
> where would the record of the will be found, in county A, where it was written, 
> or county B, where his death certificate is issued?
> 
> Thanks,
> Terry
> 
> 
>       
> 
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From pgrembi at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 16 23:01:08 2008
From: pgrembi at earthlink.net (Phyllis Grembi)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:01:08 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [TI] Messages
Message-ID: <1135354.1216238468818.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


I have not received messages from TI for days.  This is just a test to see if I receive this message.

Phyllis



From jrbkcastro at att.net  Thu Jul 17 01:16:30 2008
From: jrbkcastro at att.net (jrbkcastro at att.net)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:16:30 +0000
Subject: [TI] Messages
In-Reply-To: <1135354.1216238468818.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <071620082216.17522.487E733E000311FD0000447222216125569B0A02D29B9B0EBF019D9B9C0E0C050D9D06@att.net>

  Hi Phyllis,

I got your test
message...it's the first I have seen in several days also....

Joe Castro
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Phyllis Grembi <pgrembi at earthlink.net>
>
> 
I have not received messages from TI for days.  This is just a test to see if I 
> receive this message.
> 
> Phyllis
> 
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From steve at catanzarofoodproducts.com  Thu Jul 17 20:33:29 2008
From: steve at catanzarofoodproducts.com (steve at catanzarofoodproducts.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:33:29 -0400
Subject: [TI] Question
Message-ID: <002101c8e833$3a5f4f40$af1dedc0$@com>

Hello all,
I am new to TI and I was wondering about the reunion this year. What exactly
happens there and what or how would I benefit from it. I have visited Sicily
twice and have spent a lot of time in Termini. I also have done some
research regarding my family tree.
If anyone can enlighten me on the reunion I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks

Steven J. Catanzaro
Catanzaro Food Products Inc.
Pawtucket, RI 02860
www.catanzarofoodproducts.com







From mygirl at ctc.net  Thu Jul 17 22:50:27 2008
From: mygirl at ctc.net (Rosalie Amison)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:50:27 -0400
Subject: [TI] Question
In-Reply-To: <002101c8e833$3a5f4f40$af1dedc0$@com>
References: <002101c8e833$3a5f4f40$af1dedc0$@com>
Message-ID: <004601c8e846$5cb500e0$161f02a0$@net>

http://www.termini-imerese.org/
Try this site and scroll down to Pictures of Past Reunions.  I have never
been but the pictures will give you an idea.
Roasalie Amison

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of
steve at catanzarofoodproducts.com
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:33 PM
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Subject: [TI] Question

Hello all,
I am new to TI and I was wondering about the reunion this year. What exactly
happens there and what or how would I benefit from it. I have visited Sicily
twice and have spent a lot of time in Termini. I also have done some
research regarding my family tree.
If anyone can enlighten me on the reunion I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks

Steven J. Catanzaro
Catanzaro Food Products Inc.
Pawtucket, RI 02860
www.catanzarofoodproducts.com





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From kimsansone at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul 18 00:52:08 2008
From: kimsansone at sbcglobal.net (Kim Sansone)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:52:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] Question
In-Reply-To: <004601c8e846$5cb500e0$161f02a0$@net>
Message-ID: <102525.65572.qm@web81703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Steve, 

I noticed you live in Pawtucket RI.. I am not sure how
close to Providence that is, but I have a question for
you...

My great grandmother's family lived in Providence. I
have found the ship records showing her two brothers
coming to the US... It states they were going to
Providence to meet their cousin Salvatore Catanzaro. 

I am not sure what side of the family this Catanzaro
relative is on as I have not found Catanzaro's in this
family line.  Their names were Salvatore and
Bartolomeo Gentile.  

Bartolomeo married Teresa Ciaccio but I do not believe
they had children. 

Salvatore Gentile married Rosaria Galluzzo and their
children are as follows: 

Filippa (Filomena) married Carlo Calcagni 

Children of Filomena and Carlo 
    Concetta and Nicolina 

Ignazia (Nancy) Gentile married Thomas DiSanto 

Children of Ignazia and Thomas 
      
      Amelia (Lee) and Emilio (Nick) 

Cosimo Gentile married Frances Adessi 

Children of Cosimo and Frances 

      Salvatore and Rose 

Ignazio Gentile - I don't believe he married. 

Let me know if there is a connection. 

Thanks 

Kim Sansone 
St. Louis MO 




--- Rosalie Amison <mygirl at ctc.net> wrote:

> http://www.termini-imerese.org/
> Try this site and scroll down to Pictures of Past
> Reunions.  I have never
> been but the pictures will give you an idea.
> Roasalie Amison
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
> [mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org]
> On Behalf Of
> steve at catanzarofoodproducts.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:33 PM
> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> Subject: [TI] Question
> 
> Hello all,
> I am new to TI and I was wondering about the reunion
> this year. What exactly
> happens there and what or how would I benefit from
> it. I have visited Sicily
> twice and have spent a lot of time in Termini. I
> also have done some
> research regarding my family tree.
> If anyone can enlighten me on the reunion I would
> greatly appreciate it.
> Thanks
> 
> Steven J. Catanzaro
> Catanzaro Food Products Inc.
> Pawtucket, RI 02860
> www.catanzarofoodproducts.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>
http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org
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> 




From acm605 at comcast.net  Fri Jul 18 01:04:23 2008
From: acm605 at comcast.net (Tony Massaro)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:04:23 +0000
Subject: [TI] vista
Message-ID: <071720082204.6972.487FC1E700089CAC00001B3C2205886442CACFC0030C0E@comcast.net>

i know we've gone down this road before but i'm ready to buy a new ftm for my new vista o/s computer. version 2008 is the newest but they still have ver 16 out there. is there still problems with 2008 or is it safe to jump into the latest version. those are the only two versions available for vista.

--
Tony Massaro
acm605 at comcast.net



From rngade57 at madisontelco.com  Fri Jul 18 01:07:47 2008
From: rngade57 at madisontelco.com (Laura Johnson)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:07:47 -0500
Subject: [TI] vista
In-Reply-To: <071720082204.6972.487FC1E700089CAC00001B3C2205886442CACFC0030C0E@comcast.net>
References: <071720082204.6972.487FC1E700089CAC00001B3C2205886442CACFC0030C0E@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <487FC2B3.8010603@madisontelco.com>

I would wait to buy 2008............2009 will be released probably 
sometime in September.  2008 still does not have many of the features fo 
Version 16 and it doesn't look like they will be incorporated into 2009 
at this point

Version 16 will work on both XP and VISTA.

Tony Massaro wrote:
> i know we've gone down this road before but i'm ready to buy a new ftm for my new vista o/s computer. version 2008 is the newest but they still have ver 16 out there. is there still problems with 2008 or is it safe to jump into the latest version. those are the only two versions available for vista.
>
> --
> Tony Massaro
> acm605 at comcast.net
>
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>   



From rngade57 at madisontelco.com  Fri Jul 18 03:18:38 2008
From: rngade57 at madisontelco.com (Laura Johnson)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:18:38 -0500
Subject: [TI] Back to School Supplies and Genealogy
In-Reply-To: <004601c8e846$5cb500e0$161f02a0$@net>
References: <002101c8e833$3a5f4f40$af1dedc0$@com>
	<004601c8e846$5cb500e0$161f02a0$@net>
Message-ID: <487FE15E.304@madisontelco.com>

Back to School and Genealogy!
 
Remember that New Years resolution you made to organize your genealogy  
notes, letters, computer print outs, etc. Now is the time to buy the  supplies.

Over the next few months there will be many Back to School  sales. You can 
use these items for organizing your genealogy records. Check your  newspaper for 
sales and COUPONS.  

They have notebook paper, 3 ring  binders, and spiral notebooks on sale. 
Another good item is the kid's assignment  calendars - these are great for keeping 
track of "TO DO" lists. Look  for file boxes - they are plastic - not too 
large - and you can easily  carry them around.  

Take a trip to the store and see what may help solve some of your  
organizational problems.

Set a timer for 15 minutes each day and use that  time to file and organize 
your papers.  
 




From gotto at ameritech.net  Fri Jul 18 04:44:50 2008
From: gotto at ameritech.net (Gloria Otto)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:44:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] Back to School Supplies and Genealogy
Message-ID: <555094.31628.qm@web81806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Good idea! I can find 15 minutes. It's pretty overwhelming otherwise.
?Gloria



----- Original Message ----
From: Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com>
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:18:38 PM
Subject: [TI] Back to School Supplies and Genealogy

Back to School and Genealogy!

Remember that New Years resolution you made to organize your genealogy? 
notes, letters, computer print outs, etc. Now is the time to buy the? supplies.

Over the next few months there will be many Back to School? sales. You can 
use these items for organizing your genealogy records. Check your? newspaper for 
sales and COUPONS.? 

They have notebook paper, 3 ring? binders, and spiral notebooks on sale. 
Another good item is the kid's assignment? calendars - these are great for keeping 
track of "TO DO" lists. Look? for file boxes - they are plastic - not too 
large - and you can easily? carry them around.? 

Take a trip to the store and see what may help solve some of your? 
organizational problems.

Set a timer for 15 minutes each day and use that? time to file and organize 
your papers.? 



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From rngade57 at madisontelco.com  Fri Jul 18 04:47:35 2008
From: rngade57 at madisontelco.com (Laura Johnson)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:47:35 -0500
Subject: [TI] Back to School Supplies and Genealogy
In-Reply-To: <071820080139.16274.487FF4510009633500003F922206999735C0CAC7CE00070A9D9C@comcast.net>
References: <071820080139.16274.487FF4510009633500003F922206999735C0CAC7CE00070A9D9C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <487FF637.9010707@madisontelco.com>

shhhhhh............you should see my office  LOL

Actually, I have about 50% of the room organized from the move in 
December so I am making progress at getting it organized.  We finally 
emptied the last of our storage unit and finished the remodeling project 
so now I should have a bit more time to finish my office

sreif1956 at comcast.net wrote:
> Laura, will you come and file my papers?  My stack is getting very high, but I can't get to it over the stack of stuff I need to do for this wedding...............  Yikes!     
>
> Sharon
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com>
>   
>> Back to School and Genealogy!
>>  
>> Remember that New Years resolution you made to organize your genealogy  
>> notes, letters, computer print outs, etc. Now is the time to buy the  supplies.
>>
>> Over the next few months there will be many Back to School  sales. You can 
>> use these items for organizing your genealogy records. Check your  newspaper for 
>> sales and COUPONS.  
>>
>> They have notebook paper, 3 ring  binders, and spiral notebooks on sale. 
>> Another good item is the kid's assignment  calendars - these are great for 
>> keeping 
>> track of "TO DO" lists. Look  for file boxes - they are plastic - not too 
>> large - and you can easily  carry them around.  
>>
>> Take a trip to the store and see what may help solve some of your  
>> organizational problems.
>>
>> Set a timer for 15 minutes each day and use that  time to file and organize 
>> your papers.  
>>  
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org
>>     
>
>   



From tskibiski at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 18 05:56:41 2008
From: tskibiski at yahoo.com (Terry Skibiski)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:56:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] organization
In-Reply-To: <487FF637.9010707@madisontelco.com>
Message-ID: <460642.72929.qm@web35401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I don't understand you people.  My stuff is extremely organized.  I have piles in the bedroom, boxes in the den, stacks on the dining room table,  cabinets in the basement, and a briefcase that floats.  How much more organized can one get?

Terry


--- On Thu, 7/17/08, Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com> wrote:

> From: Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com>
> Subject: Re: [TI] Back to School Supplies and Genealogy
> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 8:47 PM
> shhhhhh............you should see my office  LOL
> 
> Actually, I have about 50% of the room organized from the
> move in 
> December so I am making progress at getting it organized. 
> We finally 
> emptied the last of our storage unit and finished the
> remodeling project 
> so now I should have a bit more time to finish my office
> 
> sreif1956 at comcast.net wrote:
> > Laura, will you come and file my papers?  My stack is
> getting very high, but I can't get to it over the stack
> of stuff I need to do for this wedding............... 
> Yikes!     



      



From graceolivo at comcast.net  Fri Jul 18 16:46:02 2008
From: graceolivo at comcast.net (Grace Olivo)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:46:02 -0400
Subject: [TI] organization
In-Reply-To: <460642.72929.qm@web35401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003001c8e8dc$9ef71060$0501a8c0@Dimension>

Terry, we must be related! <grin>

Grace Olivo
www.italianancestry.com/coi

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Terry
Skibiski
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:57 PM
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Subject: [TI] organization


I don't understand you people.  My stuff is extremely organized.  I have
piles in the bedroom, boxes in the den, stacks on the dining room table,
cabinets in the basement, and a briefcase that floats.  How much more
organized can one get?

Terry


-





From acm605 at comcast.net  Fri Jul 18 19:25:55 2008
From: acm605 at comcast.net (Tony Massaro)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:25:55 +0000
Subject: [TI] vista
Message-ID: <071820081625.8117.4880C4130006C67100001FB52205886442CACFC0030C0E@comcast.net>

grazie laura

--
Tony Massaro
acm605 at comcast.net

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com>
> I would wait to buy 2008............2009 will be released probably 
> sometime in September.  2008 still does not have many of the features fo 
> Version 16 and it doesn't look like they will be incorporated into 2009 
> at this point
> 
> Version 16 will work on both XP and VISTA.
> 
> Tony Massaro wrote:
> > i know we've gone down this road before but i'm ready to buy a new ftm for my 
> new vista o/s computer. version 2008 is the newest but they still have ver 16 
> out there. is there still problems with 2008 or is it safe to jump into the 
> latest version. those are the only two versions available for vista.
> >
> > --
> > Tony Massaro
> > acm605 at comcast.net
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TerminiImerese mailing list
> > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
> > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org
> >
> >   
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From Maria923 at cox.net  Fri Jul 18 19:34:03 2008
From: Maria923 at cox.net (Maria (Personal))
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:34:03 -0700
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: What Would Be a Good Town Near Termini To Stay
	WhileVisiting Termini?]
In-Reply-To: <PIENLBOKPJLMNBMPIHGIIEHGCCAA.gentracer@gentracer.com>
Message-ID: <20080718163305.LRQF29505.fed1rmmtao107.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net>

There are some great places in Porticello right next door to Termini. We
spent a month there last year and going back for another month this year.

Maria 


Maria E. Caccamise
6116 Lourdes Terrace
San Diego, CA 92120
619-287-1324

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Kathy
Kirkpatrick
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:34 PM
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: What Would Be a Good Town Near Termini To Stay
WhileVisiting Termini?]

Hi all,

I've stayed in Palermo and Campofelice di Roccella and Cefalu, all were less
expensive than Termini but only Cefalu was just as nice (tourist place
out-of-season). A good place to look for lodging is www.enit.it and
http://www.bed-and-breakfast-in-italy.com/bed_and_breakfast_palermo.cfm and
www.palermotourism.com. Hard to get a good deal during the Summer. Have fun!

Kathy Kirkpatrick
GenTracer
PO Box 11955
Salt Lake City, UT 84147
801 755 6991
www.gentracer.com
gentracer at gentracer.com

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org]On Behalf Of Laura Johnson
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:32 PM
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: What Would Be a Good Town Near Termini To Stay While
Visiting Termini?]


FORWARDED MESSAGE.  ORIGINAL MESSAGE IN HTML FORMAT

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	What Would Be a Good Town Near Termini To Stay While
Visiting
Termini?
Date: 	Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:54:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: 	Charlie Lamento <trial_law at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: 	trial_law at yahoo.com
To: 	terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org



Greetings, would anyone know of a place to stay in a village or town that is
located near Termini where one person could stay that is cheaper then
staying in Termini?  Your advice is appreciated.  Ciao, Charlie Lamento P.S.
I am traveling to Sicily next week.




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From merella at wtu.edu  Fri Jul 18 21:40:33 2008
From: merella at wtu.edu (Bart Merella)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:40:33 -0400
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: What Would Be a Good Town Near Termini To
	StayWhileVisiting Termini?]
In-Reply-To: <20080718163305.LRQF29505.fed1rmmtao107.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net>
References: <PIENLBOKPJLMNBMPIHGIIEHGCCAA.gentracer@gentracer.com>
	<20080718163305.LRQF29505.fed1rmmtao107.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net>
Message-ID: <B1E4FAD4B883E84D98E5C4B8FFB7468D7920B5@wtu-mail.wtu.edu>

I can't resist this.  Of course, if one is really adventurous, stay
roughly 30 miles southwest of Termini in the town of  Corleone -- the
forebear of the "Godfather."  Maybe, you will run into Al Pacino's
distant cousins!! 

bjm   

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Maria
(Personal)
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 12:34 PM
To: 'Kathy Kirkpatrick'; terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: What Would Be a Good Town Near Termini To
StayWhileVisiting Termini?]

There are some great places in Porticello right next door to Termini. We
spent a month there last year and going back for another month this
year.

Maria 


Maria E. Caccamise
6116 Lourdes Terrace
San Diego, CA 92120
619-287-1324

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Kathy
Kirkpatrick
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:34 PM
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: What Would Be a Good Town Near Termini To Stay
WhileVisiting Termini?]

Hi all,

I've stayed in Palermo and Campofelice di Roccella and Cefalu, all were
less expensive than Termini but only Cefalu was just as nice (tourist
place out-of-season). A good place to look for lodging is www.enit.it
and
http://www.bed-and-breakfast-in-italy.com/bed_and_breakfast_palermo.cfm
and www.palermotourism.com. Hard to get a good deal during the Summer.
Have fun!

Kathy Kirkpatrick
GenTracer
PO Box 11955
Salt Lake City, UT 84147
801 755 6991
www.gentracer.com
gentracer at gentracer.com

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org]On Behalf Of Laura
Johnson
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:32 PM
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: What Would Be a Good Town Near Termini To Stay While
Visiting Termini?]


FORWARDED MESSAGE.  ORIGINAL MESSAGE IN HTML FORMAT

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	What Would Be a Good Town Near Termini To Stay While
Visiting
Termini?
Date: 	Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:54:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: 	Charlie Lamento <trial_law at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: 	trial_law at yahoo.com
To: 	terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org



Greetings, would anyone know of a place to stay in a village or town
that is located near Termini where one person could stay that is cheaper
then staying in Termini?  Your advice is appreciated.  Ciao, Charlie
Lamento P.S.
I am traveling to Sicily next week.




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From tcorso at lecom.edu  Fri Jul 18 15:54:06 2008
From: tcorso at lecom.edu (Thomas Corso, PhD)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:54:06 -0400
Subject: [TI] Question
References: <102525.65572.qm@web81703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CDD4F4A6F1CAE84F86242644AD42B1D7FB6202@mailserver.lecomintra.net>

Kim,

My grandmother's maiden name was Sansone.  I don't see any connection
between our families, but I will hold on to your information as I
continue my research.  My family came to Chicago from Termini.  I do
have a cousin in St Louis and I use to live there between 93 and 97.

Good Luck,

Tom (now living in Erie, PA) 

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Kim
Sansone
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 5:52 PM
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Subject: Re: [TI] Question

Steve, 

I noticed you live in Pawtucket RI.. I am not sure how close to
Providence that is, but I have a question for you...

My great grandmother's family lived in Providence. I have found the ship
records showing her two brothers coming to the US... It states they were
going to Providence to meet their cousin Salvatore Catanzaro. 

I am not sure what side of the family this Catanzaro relative is on as I
have not found Catanzaro's in this family line.  Their names were
Salvatore and Bartolomeo Gentile.  

Bartolomeo married Teresa Ciaccio but I do not believe they had
children. 

Salvatore Gentile married Rosaria Galluzzo and their children are as
follows: 

Filippa (Filomena) married Carlo Calcagni 

Children of Filomena and Carlo 
    Concetta and Nicolina 

Ignazia (Nancy) Gentile married Thomas DiSanto 

Children of Ignazia and Thomas 
      
      Amelia (Lee) and Emilio (Nick) 

Cosimo Gentile married Frances Adessi 

Children of Cosimo and Frances 

      Salvatore and Rose 

Ignazio Gentile - I don't believe he married. 

Let me know if there is a connection. 

Thanks 

Kim Sansone
St. Louis MO 




--- Rosalie Amison <mygirl at ctc.net> wrote:

> http://www.termini-imerese.org/
> Try this site and scroll down to Pictures of Past
> Reunions.  I have never
> been but the pictures will give you an idea.
> Roasalie Amison
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
> [mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org]
> On Behalf Of
> steve at catanzarofoodproducts.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:33 PM
> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> Subject: [TI] Question
> 
> Hello all,
> I am new to TI and I was wondering about the reunion
> this year. What exactly
> happens there and what or how would I benefit from
> it. I have visited Sicily
> twice and have spent a lot of time in Termini. I
> also have done some
> research regarding my family tree.
> If anyone can enlighten me on the reunion I would
> greatly appreciate it.
> Thanks
> 
> Steven J. Catanzaro
> Catanzaro Food Products Inc.
> Pawtucket, RI 02860
> www.catanzarofoodproducts.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> TerminiImerese mailing list
> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
>
http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly
.org
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> TerminiImerese mailing list
> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
>
http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly
.org
> 


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From jimhmc at comcast.net  Sat Jul 19 13:36:44 2008
From: jimhmc at comcast.net (Jim McCarthy)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:36:44 -0400
Subject: [TI] Question
References: <102525.65572.qm@web81703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<CDD4F4A6F1CAE84F86242644AD42B1D7FB6202@mailserver.lecomintra.net>
Message-ID: <004301c8e98b$57102160$6401a8c0@mccarthy>

Tom you might check my work at www.reshippie.net to see if you are related 
to my wife.  Jim McCarthy, Somerville, MA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thomas Corso, PhD" <tcorso at lecom.edu>
To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [TI] Question


> Kim,
>
> My grandmother's maiden name was Sansone.  I don't see any connection
> between our families, but I will hold on to your information as I
> continue my research.  My family came to Chicago from Termini.  I do
> have a cousin in St Louis and I use to live there between 93 and 97.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Tom (now living in Erie, PA)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
> [mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Kim
> Sansone
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 5:52 PM
> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> Subject: Re: [TI] Question
>
> Steve,
>
> I noticed you live in Pawtucket RI.. I am not sure how close to
> Providence that is, but I have a question for you...
>
> My great grandmother's family lived in Providence. I have found the ship
> records showing her two brothers coming to the US... It states they were
> going to Providence to meet their cousin Salvatore Catanzaro.
>
> I am not sure what side of the family this Catanzaro relative is on as I
> have not found Catanzaro's in this family line.  Their names were
> Salvatore and Bartolomeo Gentile.
>
> Bartolomeo married Teresa Ciaccio but I do not believe they had
> children.
>
> Salvatore Gentile married Rosaria Galluzzo and their children are as
> follows:
>
> Filippa (Filomena) married Carlo Calcagni
>
> Children of Filomena and Carlo
>    Concetta and Nicolina
>
> Ignazia (Nancy) Gentile married Thomas DiSanto
>
> Children of Ignazia and Thomas
>
>      Amelia (Lee) and Emilio (Nick)
>
> Cosimo Gentile married Frances Adessi
>
> Children of Cosimo and Frances
>
>      Salvatore and Rose
>
> Ignazio Gentile - I don't believe he married.
>
> Let me know if there is a connection.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kim Sansone
> St. Louis MO
>
>
>
>
> --- Rosalie Amison <mygirl at ctc.net> wrote:
>
>> http://www.termini-imerese.org/
>> Try this site and scroll down to Pictures of Past
>> Reunions.  I have never
>> been but the pictures will give you an idea.
>> Roasalie Amison
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
>> [mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org]
>> On Behalf Of
>> steve at catanzarofoodproducts.com
>> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:33 PM
>> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> Subject: [TI] Question
>>
>> Hello all,
>> I am new to TI and I was wondering about the reunion
>> this year. What exactly
>> happens there and what or how would I benefit from
>> it. I have visited Sicily
>> twice and have spent a lot of time in Termini. I
>> also have done some
>> research regarding my family tree.
>> If anyone can enlighten me on the reunion I would
>> greatly appreciate it.
>> Thanks
>>
>> Steven J. Catanzaro
>> Catanzaro Food Products Inc.
>> Pawtucket, RI 02860
>> www.catanzarofoodproducts.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> TerminiImerese mailing list
>> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
>>
> http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly
> .org
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> TerminiImerese mailing list
>> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
>>
> http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly
> .org
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> TerminiImerese mailing list
> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
> http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly
> .org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
> http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org 




From kimsansone at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jul 19 14:07:36 2008
From: kimsansone at sbcglobal.net (Kim Sansone)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:07:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] Question
In-Reply-To: <004301c8e98b$57102160$6401a8c0@mccarthy>
Message-ID: <149768.90096.qm@web81703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Tom,

What was your grandmother's maiden name?  

What's your cousins name that lives in St. Louis? 

Kim
--- Jim McCarthy <jimhmc at comcast.net> wrote:

> Tom you might check my work at www.reshippie.net to
> see if you are related 
> to my wife.  Jim McCarthy, Somerville, MA
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Thomas Corso, PhD" <tcorso at lecom.edu>
> To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 8:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [TI] Question
> 
> 
> > Kim,
> >
> > My grandmother's maiden name was Sansone.  I don't
> see any connection
> > between our families, but I will hold on to your
> information as I
> > continue my research.  My family came to Chicago
> from Termini.  I do
> > have a cousin in St Louis and I use to live there
> between 93 and 97.
> >
> > Good Luck,
> >
> > Tom (now living in Erie, PA)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
> > [mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org]
> On Behalf Of Kim
> > Sansone
> > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 5:52 PM
> > To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> > Subject: Re: [TI] Question
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > I noticed you live in Pawtucket RI.. I am not sure
> how close to
> > Providence that is, but I have a question for
> you...
> >
> > My great grandmother's family lived in Providence.
> I have found the ship
> > records showing her two brothers coming to the
> US... It states they were
> > going to Providence to meet their cousin Salvatore
> Catanzaro.
> >
> > I am not sure what side of the family this
> Catanzaro relative is on as I
> > have not found Catanzaro's in this family line. 
> Their names were
> > Salvatore and Bartolomeo Gentile.
> >
> > Bartolomeo married Teresa Ciaccio but I do not
> believe they had
> > children.
> >
> > Salvatore Gentile married Rosaria Galluzzo and
> their children are as
> > follows:
> >
> > Filippa (Filomena) married Carlo Calcagni
> >
> > Children of Filomena and Carlo
> >    Concetta and Nicolina
> >
> > Ignazia (Nancy) Gentile married Thomas DiSanto
> >
> > Children of Ignazia and Thomas
> >
> >      Amelia (Lee) and Emilio (Nick)
> >
> > Cosimo Gentile married Frances Adessi
> >
> > Children of Cosimo and Frances
> >
> >      Salvatore and Rose
> >
> > Ignazio Gentile - I don't believe he married.
> >
> > Let me know if there is a connection.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Kim Sansone
> > St. Louis MO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Rosalie Amison <mygirl at ctc.net> wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.termini-imerese.org/
> >> Try this site and scroll down to Pictures of Past
> >> Reunions.  I have never
> >> been but the pictures will give you an idea.
> >> Roasalie Amison
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
> >>
> [mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org]
> >> On Behalf Of
> >> steve at catanzarofoodproducts.com
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:33 PM
> >> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> >> Subject: [TI] Question
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >> I am new to TI and I was wondering about the
> reunion
> >> this year. What exactly
> >> happens there and what or how would I benefit
> from
> >> it. I have visited Sicily
> >> twice and have spent a lot of time in Termini. I
> >> also have done some
> >> research regarding my family tree.
> >> If anyone can enlighten me on the reunion I would
> >> greatly appreciate it.
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Steven J. Catanzaro
> >> Catanzaro Food Products Inc.
> >> Pawtucket, RI 02860
> >> www.catanzarofoodproducts.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> TerminiImerese mailing list
> >> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
> >>
> >
>
http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly
> > .org
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> TerminiImerese mailing list
> >> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
> >>
> >
>
http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly
> > .org
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TerminiImerese mailing list
> > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
> >
>
http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly
> > .org
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TerminiImerese mailing list
> > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
> >
>
http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
>
http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org
> 




From acm605 at comcast.net  Sat Jul 19 15:19:52 2008
From: acm605 at comcast.net (Tony Massaro)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:19:52 +0000
Subject: [TI] Question
Message-ID: <071920081219.21301.4881DBE8000702E1000053352207000953CACFC0030C0E@comcast.net>

Tom:
my ggrandmother married a sansone after my ggranfather died in termini. they moved to chicago in 1891 or so. i know they had three children together, one which was a girl. what was your grandmother's name and when did she come here. any brothers?

--
Tony Massaro
acm605 at comcast.net

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Jim McCarthy" <jimhmc at comcast.net>
> Tom you might check my work at www.reshippie.net to see if you are related 
> to my wife.  Jim McCarthy, Somerville, MA
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Thomas Corso, PhD" <tcorso at lecom.edu>
> To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 8:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [TI] Question
> 
> 
> > Kim,
> >
> > My grandmother's maiden name was Sansone.  I don't see any connection
> > between our families, but I will hold on to your information as I
> > continue my research.  My family came to Chicago from Termini.  I do
> > have a cousin in St Louis and I use to live there between 93 and 97.
> >
> > Good Luck,
> >
> > Tom (now living in Erie, PA)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
> > [mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Kim
> > Sansone
> > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 5:52 PM
> > To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> > Subject: Re: [TI] Question
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > I noticed you live in Pawtucket RI.. I am not sure how close to
> > Providence that is, but I have a question for you...
> >
> > My great grandmother's family lived in Providence. I have found the ship
> > records showing her two brothers coming to the US... It states they were
> > going to Providence to meet their cousin Salvatore Catanzaro.
> >
> > I am not sure what side of the family this Catanzaro relative is on as I
> > have not found Catanzaro's in this family line.  Their names were
> > Salvatore and Bartolomeo Gentile.
> >
> > Bartolomeo married Teresa Ciaccio but I do not believe they had
> > children.
> >
> > Salvatore Gentile married Rosaria Galluzzo and their children are as
> > follows:
> >
> > Filippa (Filomena) married Carlo Calcagni
> >
> > Children of Filomena and Carlo
> >    Concetta and Nicolina
> >
> > Ignazia (Nancy) Gentile married Thomas DiSanto
> >
> > Children of Ignazia and Thomas
> >
> >      Amelia (Lee) and Emilio (Nick)
> >
> > Cosimo Gentile married Frances Adessi
> >
> > Children of Cosimo and Frances
> >
> >      Salvatore and Rose
> >
> > Ignazio Gentile - I don't believe he married.
> >
> > Let me know if there is a connection.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Kim Sansone
> > St. Louis MO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Rosalie Amison <mygirl at ctc.net> wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.termini-imerese.org/
> >> Try this site and scroll down to Pictures of Past
> >> Reunions.  I have never
> >> been but the pictures will give you an idea.
> >> Roasalie Amison
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
> >> [mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org]
> >> On Behalf Of
> >> steve at catanzarofoodproducts.com
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:33 PM
> >> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> >> Subject: [TI] Question
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >> I am new to TI and I was wondering about the reunion
> >> this year. What exactly
> >> happens there and what or how would I benefit from
> >> it. I have visited Sicily
> >> twice and have spent a lot of time in Termini. I
> >> also have done some
> >> research regarding my family tree.
> >> If anyone can enlighten me on the reunion I would
> >> greatly appreciate it.
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Steven J. Catanzaro
> >> Catanzaro Food Products Inc.
> >> Pawtucket, RI 02860
> >> www.catanzarofoodproducts.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> TerminiImerese mailing list
> >> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
> >>
> > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly
> > .org
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> TerminiImerese mailing list
> >> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
> >>
> > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly
> > .org
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TerminiImerese mailing list
> > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
> > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly
> > .org
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
> > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org 
> 
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From pgrembi at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 19 16:59:36 2008
From: pgrembi at earthlink.net (Phyllis Grembi)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:59:36 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [TI] Question
Message-ID: <22224354.1216475976155.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

My "Uncle John" LaMantia of Indiana, PA had a daughter, Marie, who was married to a Sansone.  He still lives in Indiana.

Phyllis

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Thomas Corso, PhD" <tcorso at lecom.edu>
>Sent: Jul 18, 2008 8:54 AM
>To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>Subject: Re: [TI] Question
>
>Kim,
>
>My grandmother's maiden name was Sansone.  I don't see any connection
>between our families, but I will hold on to your information as I
>continue my research.  My family came to Chicago from Termini.  I do
>have a cousin in St Louis and I use to live there between 93 and 97.
>
>Good Luck,
>
>Tom (now living in Erie, PA) 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
>[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Kim
>Sansone
>Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 5:52 PM
>To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>Subject: Re: [TI] Question
>
>Steve, 
>
>I noticed you live in Pawtucket RI.. I am not sure how close to
>Providence that is, but I have a question for you...
>
>My great grandmother's family lived in Providence. I have found the ship
>records showing her two brothers coming to the US... It states they were
>going to Providence to meet their cousin Salvatore Catanzaro. 
>
>I am not sure what side of the family this Catanzaro relative is on as I
>have not found Catanzaro's in this family line.  Their names were
>Salvatore and Bartolomeo Gentile.  
>
>Bartolomeo married Teresa Ciaccio but I do not believe they had
>children. 
>
>Salvatore Gentile married Rosaria Galluzzo and their children are as
>follows: 
>
>Filippa (Filomena) married Carlo Calcagni 
>
>Children of Filomena and Carlo 
>    Concetta and Nicolina 
>
>Ignazia (Nancy) Gentile married Thomas DiSanto 
>
>Children of Ignazia and Thomas 
>      
>      Amelia (Lee) and Emilio (Nick) 
>
>Cosimo Gentile married Frances Adessi 
>
>Children of Cosimo and Frances 
>
>      Salvatore and Rose 
>
>Ignazio Gentile - I don't believe he married. 
>
>Let me know if there is a connection. 
>
>Thanks 
>
>Kim Sansone
>St. Louis MO 
>
>
>
>
>--- Rosalie Amison <mygirl at ctc.net> wrote:
>
>> http://www.termini-imerese.org/
>> Try this site and scroll down to Pictures of Past
>> Reunions.  I have never
>> been but the pictures will give you an idea.
>> Roasalie Amison
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
>> [mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org]
>> On Behalf Of
>> steve at catanzarofoodproducts.com
>> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:33 PM
>> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> Subject: [TI] Question
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> I am new to TI and I was wondering about the reunion
>> this year. What exactly
>> happens there and what or how would I benefit from
>> it. I have visited Sicily
>> twice and have spent a lot of time in Termini. I
>> also have done some
>> research regarding my family tree.
>> If anyone can enlighten me on the reunion I would
>> greatly appreciate it.
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Steven J. Catanzaro
>> Catanzaro Food Products Inc.
>> Pawtucket, RI 02860
>> www.catanzarofoodproducts.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> TerminiImerese mailing list
>> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
>>
>http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly
>.org
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> TerminiImerese mailing list
>> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
>>
>http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly
>.org
>> 
>
>
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From laura at termini-imerese.org  Sat Jul 19 19:23:09 2008
From: laura at termini-imerese.org (Laura)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:23:09 -0500
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
Message-ID: <488214ED.7020202@termini-imerese.org>

FORWARDED MESSAGE - ORIGINAL IN HTML FORMAT

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Salvatore=Sam?
Date: 	Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:32:54 +0000
From: 	Mike Maddi <m.maddi at att.net>
To: 	terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org



Have people found that ancestors who were named Salvatore Americanized 
their name to "Sam" when they came to the U.S.? If not, what was the 
original Italian given name of ancestors who were called Sam?

Mike Maddi




From jrbkcastro at att.net  Sat Jul 19 19:54:05 2008
From: jrbkcastro at att.net (jrbkcastro at att.net)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:54:05 +0000
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
In-Reply-To: <488214ED.7020202@termini-imerese.org>
Message-ID: <071920081654.10070.48821C2D000D6B900000275622193100029B0A02D29B9B0EBF019D9B9C0E0C050D9D06@att.net>

  We had several Cosimo's who became Sam.....


-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Laura <laura at termini-imerese.org>
>
> FORWARDED MESSAGE - ORIGINAL IN HTML FORMAT
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	Salvatore=Sam?
> Date: 	Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:32:54 +0000
> From: 	Mike Maddi <m.maddi at att.net>
> To: 	terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> 
> 
> 
> Have people found that ancestors who were named Salvatore Americanized 
> their name to "Sam" when they came to the U.S.? If not, what was the 
> original Italian given name of ancestors who were called Sam?
> 
> Mike Maddi
> 
> 
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From geracig at alltel.net  Sat Jul 19 19:57:06 2008
From: geracig at alltel.net (Glenda Geraci)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:57:06 -0400
Subject: [TI] Americanized names
References: <071920081654.10070.48821C2D000D6B900000275622193100029B0A02D29B9B0EBF019D9B9C0E0C050D9D06@att.net>
Message-ID: <006101c8e9c0$7a28dc70$6501a8c0@glenda4aef7g5l>


Along this same line, I have several Ninfa's.  Was that name americanized? 
If so, to what?

Glenda Geraci 




From sreif1956 at comcast.net  Sat Jul 19 22:06:18 2008
From: sreif1956 at comcast.net (sreif1956 at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:06:18 +0000
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
Message-ID: <071920081906.1869.48823B2A0001CDA40000074D2200735834C0CAC7CE00070A9D9C@comcast.net>

Mike, all of my family Salvatore's called themselves William or Willie.  The father of my uncle  (related only by marriage) called himself Sam instead of Salvatore.  
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Laura <laura at termini-imerese.org>
> FORWARDED MESSAGE - ORIGINAL IN HTML FORMAT
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	Salvatore=Sam?
> Date: 	Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:32:54 +0000
> From: 	Mike Maddi <m.maddi at att.net>
> To: 	terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> 
> 
> 
> Have people found that ancestors who were named Salvatore Americanized 
> their name to "Sam" when they came to the U.S.? If not, what was the 
> original Italian given name of ancestors who were called Sam?
> 
> Mike Maddi
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From m.maddi at att.net  Sat Jul 19 22:21:24 2008
From: m.maddi at att.net (Mike Maddi)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:21:24 +0000
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
In-Reply-To: <071920081906.1869.48823B2A0001CDA40000074D2200735834C0CAC7CE00070A9D9C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <071920081921.10430.48823EB3000EB994000028BE22243429029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>

By any chance, was your Uncle Salvatore, who called himself Sam, from southern Italy, not Sicily.

I'm trying to establish for someone with Calabrian ancestry, whether a Calabrian birth record is that of his grandfather. The date of birth and surname match his grandfather, but the given name is Salvatore and he only knows his grandfather as "Sam."

Mike


-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
>
Mike, all of my family Salvatore's called themselves William or Willie.  The 
father of my uncle  (related only by marriage) called himself Sam instead of 
> Salvatore.  
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Laura <laura at termini-imerese.org>
> > FORWARDED MESSAGE - ORIGINAL IN HTML FORMAT
> > 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: 	Salvatore=Sam?
> > Date: 	Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:32:54 +0000
> > From: 	Mike Maddi <m.maddi at att.net>
> > To: 	terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Have people found that ancestors who were named Salvatore Americanized 
> > their name to "Sam" when they came to the U.S.? If not, what was the 
> > original Italian given name of ancestors who were called Sam?
> > 
> > Mike Maddi
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
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From sreif1956 at comcast.net  Sat Jul 19 22:36:27 2008
From: sreif1956 at comcast.net (sreif1956 at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:36:27 +0000
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
Message-ID: <071920081936.13492.4882423B00058BA7000034B42206424413C0CAC7CE00070A9D9C@comcast.net>

Mike, Uncle Willie (Salvatore) was actually born in Omaha, Nebraska in 1895.  The Pitti family moved there from St. Louis around the time just before the great St. Louis cyclone, but then returned thereafter when my when grandma and her twin were born in St. Louis in 1897.

The Pitti family originated in Florence, but after getting "escorted" out of town with the Medici, they took their money and headed south to Sicily where their money would go much farther because everything was so much cheaper, like the real estate, etc.  They ended up in the Palermo region and then to Porticello/Termini/Cefalo/Campfelice de Rocella/Belmonte Mezzagno.  They brought with them their education and music (many violinists in the family).

When coming to America, most about 1888-1910, they considered themselves Sicilian.  Although, I know of one small branch who refuse to believe that the family went to Sicily...they think that there was just a misunderstanding with the people of Florence and the aristocrats. Being a Sicilian is a "dirty" word to them.  So sad. They don't know what they are missing.  i have shared my documentation with them, but they still refuse to believe.

So, I guess they had to go through Calabria to get to Palermo in the 1600s, if you look at it that way.  Does that answer your question?  Probably not.  Oh, well.

Sharon
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Mike Maddi" <m.maddi at att.net>
> By any chance, was your Uncle Salvatore, who called himself Sam, from southern 
> Italy, not Sicily.
> 
> I'm trying to establish for someone with Calabrian ancestry, whether a Calabrian 
> birth record is that of his grandfather. The date of birth and surname match his 
> grandfather, but the given name is Salvatore and he only knows his grandfather 
> as "Sam."
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
> >
> Mike, all of my family Salvatore's called themselves William or Willie.  The 
> father of my uncle  (related only by marriage) called himself Sam instead of 
> > Salvatore.  
> >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: Laura <laura at termini-imerese.org>
> > > FORWARDED MESSAGE - ORIGINAL IN HTML FORMAT
> > > 
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: 	Salvatore=Sam?
> > > Date: 	Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:32:54 +0000
> > > From: 	Mike Maddi <m.maddi at att.net>
> > > To: 	terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Have people found that ancestors who were named Salvatore Americanized 
> > > their name to "Sam" when they came to the U.S.? If not, what was the 
> > > original Italian given name of ancestors who were called Sam?
> > > 
> > > Mike Maddi
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
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From m.maddi at att.net  Sat Jul 19 22:46:22 2008
From: m.maddi at att.net (Mike Maddi)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:46:22 +0000
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
In-Reply-To: <071920081936.13492.4882423B00058BA7000034B42206424413C0CAC7CE00070A9D9C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <071920081946.29977.4882448E000768D10000751922243429029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>

Sharon,

It doesn't answer my question, but it was an interesting story.

Mike

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
>
Mike, Uncle Willie (Salvatore) was actually born in Omaha, Nebraska in 1895.  
The Pitti family moved there from St. Louis around the time just before the 
great St. Louis cyclone, but then returned thereafter when my when grandma and 
> her twin were born in St. Louis in 1897.
> 
The Pitti family originated in Florence, but after getting "escorted" out of 
town with the Medici, they took their money and headed south to Sicily where 
their money would go much farther because everything was so much cheaper, like 
the real estate, etc.  They ended up in the Palermo region and then to 
Porticello/Termini/Cefalo/Campfelice de Rocella/Belmonte Mezzagno.  They brought 
> with them their education and music (many violinists in the family).
> 
When coming to America, most about 1888-1910, they considered themselves 
Sicilian.  Although, I know of one small branch who refuse to believe that the 
family went to Sicily...they think that there was just a misunderstanding with 
> the people of Florence and the aristocrats. Being a Sicilian is a "dirty" word 
> to them.  So sad. They don't know what they are missing.  i have shared my 
> documentation with them, but they still refuse to believe.
> 
> So, I guess they had to go through Calabria to get to Palermo in the 1600s, if 
> you look at it that way.  Does that answer your question?  Probably not.  Oh, 
> well.
> 
> Sharon
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Mike Maddi" <m.maddi at att.net>
> > By any chance, was your Uncle Salvatore, who called himself Sam, from southern 
> > Italy, not Sicily.
> > 
> > I'm trying to establish for someone with Calabrian ancestry, whether a 
> Calabrian 
> > birth record is that of his grandfather. The date of birth and surname match 
> his 
> > grandfather, but the given name is Salvatore and he only knows his grandfather 
> > as "Sam."
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
> > >
> > Mike, all of my family Salvatore's called themselves William or Willie.  The 
> > father of my uncle  (related only by marriage) called himself Sam instead of 
> > > Salvatore.  
> > >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > > From: Laura <laura at termini-imerese.org>
> > > > FORWARDED MESSAGE - ORIGINAL IN HTML FORMAT
> > > > 
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > Subject: 	Salvatore=Sam?
> > > > Date: 	Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:32:54 +0000
> > > > From: 	Mike Maddi <m.maddi at att.net>
> > > > To: 	terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Have people found that ancestors who were named Salvatore Americanized 
> > > > their name to "Sam" when they came to the U.S.? If not, what was the 
> > > > original Italian given name of ancestors who were called Sam?
> > > > 
> > > > Mike Maddi
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > TerminiImerese mailing list
> > > > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
> > > > 
> http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org
> > > 
> > > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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From gentrace at gentracer.com  Sat Jul 19 23:31:18 2008
From: gentrace at gentracer.com (Kathy Kirkpatrick)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:31:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
In-Reply-To: <071920081946.29977.4882448E000768D10000751922243429029B0A02D29B9B0EBF
	070B0B0E03D203@att.net>
References: <071920081936.13492.4882423B00058BA7000034B42206424413C0CAC7CE00070A9D9C@comcast.net>
	<071920081946.29977.4882448E000768D10000751922243429029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>
Message-ID: <51948.72.32.68.71.1216499478.squirrel@webmail.gentracer.com>

Mike,

I've found that most Sams started out as Salvatores but not all Salvatores
became Sams. It depended more on the local population and the names most
popular there rather than a translation of the name. I work with a lot of
20th century researchers trying to locate living heirs to intestate
probates and when they come to me with a question like this I have to
answer that no matter what their birth name, they could end up as ANYTHING
in the US. Sad, but true for those of us trying to connect the dots. Of
course, names like Ignazio and Natale are most likely to be something
unrecognizable, but the same can be said for Salvatore and Vincenzo.
Sorry, no simple answer. However, Sharon's comment about all the men in
her family with one Italian name ending up with the same English name is a
very valid point. Not the same names used for Salvatore in every family,
but the trend to use the same English names for successive generations was
often followed, as at home with the Italian names.


Kathy Kirkpatrick
GenTracer
PO Box 11955
Salt Lake City, UT 84147
801-755-6991
gentrace at gentracer.com
www.gentracer.com

> Sharon,
>
> It doesn't answer my question, but it was an interesting story.
>
> Mike
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
>>
> Mike, Uncle Willie (Salvatore) was actually born in Omaha, Nebraska in
> 1895.
> The Pitti family moved there from St. Louis around the time just before
> the
> great St. Louis cyclone, but then returned thereafter when my when grandma
> and
>> her twin were born in St. Louis in 1897.
>>
> The Pitti family originated in Florence, but after getting "escorted" out
> of
> town with the Medici, they took their money and headed south to Sicily
> where
> their money would go much farther because everything was so much cheaper,
> like
> the real estate, etc.  They ended up in the Palermo region and then to
> Porticello/Termini/Cefalo/Campfelice de Rocella/Belmonte Mezzagno.  They
> brought
>> with them their education and music (many violinists in the family).
>>
> When coming to America, most about 1888-1910, they considered themselves
> Sicilian.  Although, I know of one small branch who refuse to believe that
> the
> family went to Sicily...they think that there was just a misunderstanding
> with
>> the people of Florence and the aristocrats. Being a Sicilian is a
>> "dirty" word
>> to them.  So sad. They don't know what they are missing.  i have shared
>> my
>> documentation with them, but they still refuse to believe.
>>
>> So, I guess they had to go through Calabria to get to Palermo in the
>> 1600s, if
>> you look at it that way.  Does that answer your question?  Probably not.
>>  Oh,
>> well.
>>
>> Sharon
>>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: "Mike Maddi" <m.maddi at att.net>
>> > By any chance, was your Uncle Salvatore, who called himself Sam, from
>> southern
>> > Italy, not Sicily.
>> >
>> > I'm trying to establish for someone with Calabrian ancestry, whether a
>> Calabrian
>> > birth record is that of his grandfather. The date of birth and surname
>> match
>> his
>> > grandfather, but the given name is Salvatore and he only knows his
>> grandfather
>> > as "Sam."
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> > From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
>> > >
>> > Mike, all of my family Salvatore's called themselves William or
>> Willie.  The
>> > father of my uncle  (related only by marriage) called himself Sam
>> instead of
>> > > Salvatore.
>> > >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> > > From: Laura <laura at termini-imerese.org>
>> > > > FORWARDED MESSAGE - ORIGINAL IN HTML FORMAT
>> > > >
>> > > > -------- Original Message --------
>> > > > Subject: 	Salvatore=Sam?
>> > > > Date: 	Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:32:54 +0000
>> > > > From: 	Mike Maddi <m.maddi at att.net>
>> > > > To: 	terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Have people found that ancestors who were named Salvatore
>> Americanized
>> > > > their name to "Sam" when they came to the U.S.? If not, what was
>> the
>> > > > original Italian given name of ancestors who were called Sam?
>> > > >
>> > > > Mike Maddi





From rngade57 at madisontelco.com  Sat Jul 19 23:41:01 2008
From: rngade57 at madisontelco.com (Laura Johnson)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:41:01 -0500
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
In-Reply-To: <071920081921.10430.48823EB3000EB994000028BE22243429029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>
References: <071920081921.10430.48823EB3000EB994000028BE22243429029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>
Message-ID: <4882515D.7000107@madisontelco.com>

All of the Salvatores in my family went by Sam or Sal

Mike Maddi wrote:
> By any chance, was your Uncle Salvatore, who called himself Sam, from southern Italy, not Sicily.
>
> I'm trying to establish for someone with Calabrian ancestry, whether a Calabrian birth record is that of his grandfather. The date of birth and surname match his grandfather, but the given name is Salvatore and he only knows his grandfather as "Sam."
>
> Mike
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
>   
> Mike, all of my family Salvatore's called themselves William or Willie.  The 
> father of my uncle  (related only by marriage) called himself Sam instead of 
>   
>> Salvatore.  
>>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: Laura <laura at termini-imerese.org>
>>     
>>> FORWARDED MESSAGE - ORIGINAL IN HTML FORMAT
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: 	Salvatore=Sam?
>>> Date: 	Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:32:54 +0000
>>> From: 	Mike Maddi <m.maddi at att.net>
>>> To: 	terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Have people found that ancestors who were named Salvatore Americanized 
>>> their name to "Sam" when they came to the U.S.? If not, what was the 
>>> original Italian given name of ancestors who were called Sam?
>>>
>>> Mike Maddi
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> TerminiImerese mailing list
>>> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
>>> http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org
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>
>
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From m.maddi at att.net  Sat Jul 19 23:44:16 2008
From: m.maddi at att.net (Mike Maddi)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:44:16 +0000
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
In-Reply-To: <51948.72.32.68.71.1216499478.squirrel@webmail.gentracer.com>
References: <071920081936.13492.4882423B00058BA7000034B42206424413C0CAC7CE00070A9D9C@comcast.net>
	<071920081946.29977.4882448E000768D10000751922243429029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>
	<51948.72.32.68.71.1216499478.squirrel@webmail.gentracer.com>
Message-ID: <071920082044.25571.4882521F000D2F68000063E322243429029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>

Kathy,

Thanks for the feedback.

I'm almost certain that this Salvatore Vallelonga is the grandfather, known as Sam, of a man with whom I have a close DNA match. He got the image of the birth certificate by e-mail from someone who's a descendant of his grandfather's brother. Someone had written on the record the name "Sam Vallonga" with a number under it that looks like a Social Security number. I've confirmed with Fred, my match, that the number is his grandfather's Social Security number.

So now I have to order the LDS microfilms for Fabrizia, Calabria, where Salvatore Vallelonga was born. I'm trying to establish some sort of connection between this Calabrian Vallelonga line and my great-grandfather, Nunzio Maddi. He was abandoned as an infant about 1845 and lived in Mezzojuso, where my grandfather was born. Hopefully, I'll come across a Vallelonga in this line who connects to Sicily. I believe the connection may be a Vallelunga from Trabia or possibly Termini Imerese.

Mike



-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Kathy Kirkpatrick" <gentrace at gentracer.com>
>
> Mike,
> 
> I've found that most Sams started out as Salvatores but not all Salvatores
> became Sams. It depended more on the local population and the names most
> popular there rather than a translation of the name. I work with a lot of
> 20th century researchers trying to locate living heirs to intestate
> probates and when they come to me with a question like this I have to
> answer that no matter what their birth name, they could end up as ANYTHING
> in the US. Sad, but true for those of us trying to connect the dots. Of
> course, names like Ignazio and Natale are most likely to be something
> unrecognizable, but the same can be said for Salvatore and Vincenzo.
> Sorry, no simple answer. However, Sharon's comment about all the men in
> her family with one Italian name ending up with the same English name is a
> very valid point. Not the same names used for Salvatore in every family,
> but the trend to use the same English names for successive generations was
> often followed, as at home with the Italian names.
> 
> 
> Kathy Kirkpatrick
> GenTracer
> PO Box 11955
> Salt Lake City, UT 84147
> 801-755-6991
> gentrace at gentracer.com
> www.gentracer.com
> 
> > Sharon,
> >
> > It doesn't answer my question, but it was an interesting story.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
> >>
> > Mike, Uncle Willie (Salvatore) was actually born in Omaha, Nebraska in
> > 1895.
> > The Pitti family moved there from St. Louis around the time just before
> > the
> > great St. Louis cyclone, but then returned thereafter when my when grandma
> > and
> >> her twin were born in St. Louis in 1897.
> >>
> > The Pitti family originated in Florence, but after getting "escorted" out
> > of
> > town with the Medici, they took their money and headed south to Sicily
> > where
> > their money would go much farther because everything was so much cheaper,
> > like
> > the real estate, etc.  They ended up in the Palermo region and then to
> > Porticello/Termini/Cefalo/Campfelice de Rocella/Belmonte Mezzagno.  They
> > brought
> >> with them their education and music (many violinists in the family).
> >>
> > When coming to America, most about 1888-1910, they considered themselves
> > Sicilian.  Although, I know of one small branch who refuse to believe that
> > the
> > family went to Sicily...they think that there was just a misunderstanding
> > with
> >> the people of Florence and the aristocrats. Being a Sicilian is a
> >> "dirty" word
> >> to them.  So sad. They don't know what they are missing.  i have shared
> >> my
> >> documentation with them, but they still refuse to believe.
> >>
> >> So, I guess they had to go through Calabria to get to Palermo in the
> >> 1600s, if
> >> you look at it that way.  Does that answer your question?  Probably not.
> >>  Oh,
> >> well.
> >>
> >> Sharon
> >>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >> From: "Mike Maddi" <m.maddi at att.net>
> >> > By any chance, was your Uncle Salvatore, who called himself Sam, from
> >> southern
> >> > Italy, not Sicily.
> >> >
> >> > I'm trying to establish for someone with Calabrian ancestry, whether a
> >> Calabrian
> >> > birth record is that of his grandfather. The date of birth and surname
> >> match
> >> his
> >> > grandfather, but the given name is Salvatore and he only knows his
> >> grandfather
> >> > as "Sam."
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >> > From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
> >> > >
> >> > Mike, all of my family Salvatore's called themselves William or
> >> Willie.  The
> >> > father of my uncle  (related only by marriage) called himself Sam
> >> instead of
> >> > > Salvatore.
> >> > >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >> > > From: Laura <laura at termini-imerese.org>
> >> > > > FORWARDED MESSAGE - ORIGINAL IN HTML FORMAT
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> >> > > > Subject: 	Salvatore=Sam?
> >> > > > Date: 	Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:32:54 +0000
> >> > > > From: 	Mike Maddi <m.maddi at att.net>
> >> > > > To: 	terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Have people found that ancestors who were named Salvatore
> >> Americanized
> >> > > > their name to "Sam" when they came to the U.S.? If not, what was
> >> the
> >> > > > original Italian given name of ancestors who were called Sam?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Mike Maddi
> 
> 
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From kimsansone at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jul 19 23:53:22 2008
From: kimsansone at sbcglobal.net (Kim Sansone)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:53:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
In-Reply-To: <071920081906.1869.48823B2A0001CDA40000074D2200735834C0CAC7CE00070A9D9C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <499347.47649.qm@web81701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mike, 

Depending on what side of my family your talking
about... I have an Ignazio who went by Joe.  Ignazio's
who went by Will.   Salvatore's that went by Sam and I
know some Salvatore's who went by William.   I have an
Iganzia who went by Lena, but I have another Ignazia
that went by Nancy.  My grandmother was Maria Filippa
and she went by Flora!  

On top of that some of them had nicknames...like
Chirpy, Johnny Magee and Floppy!!  

I stop trying to guess why they went by the names they
did... 

Kim 

--- sreif1956 at comcast.net wrote:

> Mike, all of my family Salvatore's called themselves
> William or Willie.  The father of my uncle  (related
> only by marriage) called himself Sam instead of
> Salvatore.  
>  -------------- Original message
> ----------------------
> From: Laura <laura at termini-imerese.org>
> > FORWARDED MESSAGE - ORIGINAL IN HTML FORMAT
> > 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: 	Salvatore=Sam?
> > Date: 	Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:32:54 +0000
> > From: 	Mike Maddi <m.maddi at att.net>
> > To: 	terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Have people found that ancestors who were named
> Salvatore Americanized 
> > their name to "Sam" when they came to the U.S.? If
> not, what was the 
> > original Italian given name of ancestors who were
> called Sam?
> > 
> > Mike Maddi
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > TerminiImerese mailing list
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> >
>
http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org
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From gentracekirkpatrick at jiwire-member.com  Sat Jul 19 23:58:13 2008
From: gentracekirkpatrick at jiwire-member.com (Kathy Kirkpatrick)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:58:13 -0600
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
In-Reply-To: <071920082044.25571.4882521F000D2F68000063E322243429029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>
Message-ID: <PIENLBOKPJLMNBMPIHGIKEMCCCAA.gentracer@gentracer.com>

Mike,

They moved about a lot more than we give them credit for, so I wouldn't be
surprised at a connection. Good luck in your search!

Kathy Kirkpatrick
GenTracer
PO Box 11955
Salt Lake City, UT 84147
801 755 6991
www.gentracer.com
gentracer at gentracer.com

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org]On Behalf Of Mike
Maddi
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:44 PM
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]


Kathy,

Thanks for the feedback.

I'm almost certain that this Salvatore Vallelonga is the grandfather, known
as Sam, of a man with whom I have a close DNA match. He got the image of the
birth certificate by e-mail from someone who's a descendant of his
grandfather's brother. Someone had written on the record the name "Sam
Vallonga" with a number under it that looks like a Social Security number.
I've confirmed with Fred, my match, that the number is his grandfather's
Social Security number.

So now I have to order the LDS microfilms for Fabrizia, Calabria, where
Salvatore Vallelonga was born. I'm trying to establish some sort of
connection between this Calabrian Vallelonga line and my great-grandfather,
Nunzio Maddi. He was abandoned as an infant about 1845 and lived in
Mezzojuso, where my grandfather was born. Hopefully, I'll come across a
Vallelonga in this line who connects to Sicily. I believe the connection may
be a Vallelunga from Trabia or possibly Termini Imerese.

Mike



-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Kathy Kirkpatrick" <gentrace at gentracer.com>
>
> Mike,
>
> I've found that most Sams started out as Salvatores but not all Salvatores
> became Sams. It depended more on the local population and the names most
> popular there rather than a translation of the name. I work with a lot of
> 20th century researchers trying to locate living heirs to intestate
> probates and when they come to me with a question like this I have to
> answer that no matter what their birth name, they could end up as ANYTHING
> in the US. Sad, but true for those of us trying to connect the dots. Of
> course, names like Ignazio and Natale are most likely to be something
> unrecognizable, but the same can be said for Salvatore and Vincenzo.
> Sorry, no simple answer. However, Sharon's comment about all the men in
> her family with one Italian name ending up with the same English name is a
> very valid point. Not the same names used for Salvatore in every family,
> but the trend to use the same English names for successive generations was
> often followed, as at home with the Italian names.
>
>
> Kathy Kirkpatrick
> GenTracer
> PO Box 11955
> Salt Lake City, UT 84147
> 801-755-6991
> gentrace at gentracer.com
> www.gentracer.com
>
> > Sharon,
> >
> > It doesn't answer my question, but it was an interesting story.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
> >>
> > Mike, Uncle Willie (Salvatore) was actually born in Omaha, Nebraska in
> > 1895.
> > The Pitti family moved there from St. Louis around the time just before
> > the
> > great St. Louis cyclone, but then returned thereafter when my when
grandma
> > and
> >> her twin were born in St. Louis in 1897.
> >>
> > The Pitti family originated in Florence, but after getting "escorted"
out
> > of
> > town with the Medici, they took their money and headed south to Sicily
> > where
> > their money would go much farther because everything was so much
cheaper,
> > like
> > the real estate, etc.  They ended up in the Palermo region and then to
> > Porticello/Termini/Cefalo/Campfelice de Rocella/Belmonte Mezzagno.  They
> > brought
> >> with them their education and music (many violinists in the family).
> >>
> > When coming to America, most about 1888-1910, they considered themselves
> > Sicilian.  Although, I know of one small branch who refuse to believe
that
> > the
> > family went to Sicily...they think that there was just a
misunderstanding
> > with
> >> the people of Florence and the aristocrats. Being a Sicilian is a
> >> "dirty" word
> >> to them.  So sad. They don't know what they are missing.  i have shared
> >> my
> >> documentation with them, but they still refuse to believe.
> >>
> >> So, I guess they had to go through Calabria to get to Palermo in the
> >> 1600s, if
> >> you look at it that way.  Does that answer your question?  Probably
not.
> >>  Oh,
> >> well.
> >>
> >> Sharon
> >>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >> From: "Mike Maddi" <m.maddi at att.net>
> >> > By any chance, was your Uncle Salvatore, who called himself Sam, from
> >> southern
> >> > Italy, not Sicily.
> >> >
> >> > I'm trying to establish for someone with Calabrian ancestry, whether
a
> >> Calabrian
> >> > birth record is that of his grandfather. The date of birth and
surname
> >> match
> >> his
> >> > grandfather, but the given name is Salvatore and he only knows his
> >> grandfather
> >> > as "Sam."
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >> > From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
> >> > >
> >> > Mike, all of my family Salvatore's called themselves William or
> >> Willie.  The
> >> > father of my uncle  (related only by marriage) called himself Sam
> >> instead of
> >> > > Salvatore.
> >> > >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >> > > From: Laura <laura at termini-imerese.org>
> >> > > > FORWARDED MESSAGE - ORIGINAL IN HTML FORMAT
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> >> > > > Subject: 	Salvatore=Sam?
> >> > > > Date: 	Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:32:54 +0000
> >> > > > From: 	Mike Maddi <m.maddi at att.net>
> >> > > > To: 	terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Have people found that ancestors who were named Salvatore
> >> Americanized
> >> > > > their name to "Sam" when they came to the U.S.? If not, what was
> >> the
> >> > > > original Italian given name of ancestors who were called Sam?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Mike Maddi
>
>
>
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From tskibiski at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 20 01:10:52 2008
From: tskibiski at yahoo.com (Terry Skibiski)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:10:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
In-Reply-To: <071920081906.1869.48823B2A0001CDA40000074D2200735834C0CAC7CE00070A9D9C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <234060.70917.qm@web35406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Our Salvatores are Sam, our Ignazios are Frank.

from Terry, known to his students as "Your Royal Highness"

> > Have people found that ancestors who were named
> Salvatore Americanized 
> > their name to "Sam" when they came to the
> U.S.? If not, what was the 
> > original Italian given name of ancestors who were
> called Sam?
> > 
> > Mike Maddi
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > TerminiImerese mailing list
> > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
> >
> http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org
> 
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From anniegoe at access995.com  Sun Jul 20 01:19:40 2008
From: anniegoe at access995.com (anniegoe)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:19:40 -0400
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
References: <071920081946.29977.4882448E000768D10000751922243429029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>
Message-ID: <003801c8e9ed$8acbeb80$2b6e4845@DJZBSK81>

Mike, before Unification the name was Salvadore, after Salvatore.
Those names are popular in Sicily.  My Grandfather was Salvatore. There were 
also cousins by that name. Also Santo!   They were all called Sam in 
America.
Ann
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Maddi" <m.maddi at att.net>
To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]


> Sharon,
>
> It doesn't answer my question, but it was an interesting story.
>
> Mike
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
>>
> Mike, Uncle Willie (Salvatore) was actually born in Omaha, Nebraska in 
> 1895.
> The Pitti family moved there from St. Louis around the time just before 
> the
> great St. Louis cyclone, but then returned thereafter when my when grandma 
> and
>> her twin were born in St. Louis in 1897.
>>
> The Pitti family originated in Florence, but after getting "escorted" out 
> of
> town with the Medici, they took their money and headed south to Sicily 
> where
> their money would go much farther because everything was so much cheaper, 
> like
> the real estate, etc.  They ended up in the Palermo region and then to
> Porticello/Termini/Cefalo/Campfelice de Rocella/Belmonte Mezzagno.  They 
> brought
>> with them their education and music (many violinists in the family).
>>
> When coming to America, most about 1888-1910, they considered themselves
> Sicilian.  Although, I know of one small branch who refuse to believe that 
> the
> family went to Sicily...they think that there was just a misunderstanding 
> with
>> the people of Florence and the aristocrats. Being a Sicilian is a "dirty" 
>> word
>> to them.  So sad. They don't know what they are missing.  i have shared 
>> my
>> documentation with them, but they still refuse to believe.
>>
>> So, I guess they had to go through Calabria to get to Palermo in the 
>> 1600s, if
>> you look at it that way.  Does that answer your question?  Probably not. 
>> Oh,
>> well.
>>
>> Sharon
>>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: "Mike Maddi" <m.maddi at att.net>
>> > By any chance, was your Uncle Salvatore, who called himself Sam, from 
>> > southern
>> > Italy, not Sicily.
>> >
>> > I'm trying to establish for someone with Calabrian ancestry, whether a
>> Calabrian
>> > birth record is that of his grandfather. The date of birth and surname 
>> > match
>> his
>> > grandfather, but the given name is Salvatore and he only knows his 
>> > grandfather
>> > as "Sam."
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> > From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
>> > >
>> > Mike, all of my family Salvatore's called themselves William or Willie. 
>> > The
>> > father of my uncle  (related only by marriage) called himself Sam 
>> > instead of
>> > > Salvatore.
>> > >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> > > From: Laura <laura at termini-imerese.org>
>> > > > FORWARDED MESSAGE - ORIGINAL IN HTML FORMAT
>> > > >
>> > > > -------- Original Message --------
>> > > > Subject: Salvatore=Sam?
>> > > > Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:32:54 +0000
>> > > > From: Mike Maddi <m.maddi at att.net>
>> > > > To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Have people found that ancestors who were named Salvatore 
>> > > > Americanized
>> > > > their name to "Sam" when they came to the U.S.? If not, what was 
>> > > > the
>> > > > original Italian given name of ancestors who were called Sam?
>> > > >
>> > > > Mike Maddi
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > _______________________________________________
>> > > > TerminiImerese mailing list
>> > > > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> > > >
>> http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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From nellie at woh.rr.com  Sun Jul 20 02:13:54 2008
From: nellie at woh.rr.com (nell lamantia)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:13:54 -0400
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
References: <071920081946.29977.4882448E000768D10000751922243429029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>
	<003801c8e9ed$8acbeb80$2b6e4845@DJZBSK81>
Message-ID: <000601c8e9f5$1d5d1d00$6601a8c0@mom12698b73916>

Salvatore = Sam,
 Ignazio = John
Guiseppa= Josephine
in the Lamantia Family
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "anniegoe" <anniegoe at access995.com>
To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]


> Mike, before Unification the name was Salvadore, after Salvatore.
> Those names are popular in Sicily.  My Grandfather was Salvatore. There 
> were
> also cousins by that name. Also Santo!   They were all called Sam in
> America.
> Ann
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Maddi" <m.maddi at att.net>
> To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
>
>
>> Sharon,
>>
>> It doesn't answer my question, but it was an interesting story.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
>>>
>> Mike, Uncle Willie (Salvatore) was actually born in Omaha, Nebraska in
>> 1895.
>> The Pitti family moved there from St. Louis around the time just before
>> the
>> great St. Louis cyclone, but then returned thereafter when my when 
>> grandma
>> and
>>> her twin were born in St. Louis in 1897.
>>>
>> The Pitti family originated in Florence, but after getting "escorted" out
>> of
>> town with the Medici, they took their money and headed south to Sicily
>> where
>> their money would go much farther because everything was so much cheaper,
>> like
>> the real estate, etc.  They ended up in the Palermo region and then to
>> Porticello/Termini/Cefalo/Campfelice de Rocella/Belmonte Mezzagno.  They
>> brought
>>> with them their education and music (many violinists in the family).
>>>
>> When coming to America, most about 1888-1910, they considered themselves
>> Sicilian.  Although, I know of one small branch who refuse to believe 
>> that
>> the
>> family went to Sicily...they think that there was just a misunderstanding
>> with
>>> the people of Florence and the aristocrats. Being a Sicilian is a 
>>> "dirty"
>>> word
>>> to them.  So sad. They don't know what they are missing.  i have shared
>>> my
>>> documentation with them, but they still refuse to believe.
>>>
>>> So, I guess they had to go through Calabria to get to Palermo in the
>>> 1600s, if
>>> you look at it that way.  Does that answer your question?  Probably not.
>>> Oh,
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Sharon
>>>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>> From: "Mike Maddi" <m.maddi at att.net>
>>> > By any chance, was your Uncle Salvatore, who called himself Sam, from
>>> > southern
>>> > Italy, not Sicily.
>>> >
>>> > I'm trying to establish for someone with Calabrian ancestry, whether a
>>> Calabrian
>>> > birth record is that of his grandfather. The date of birth and surname
>>> > match
>>> his
>>> > grandfather, but the given name is Salvatore and he only knows his
>>> > grandfather
>>> > as "Sam."
>>> >
>>> > Mike
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>> > From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
>>> > >
>>> > Mike, all of my family Salvatore's called themselves William or 
>>> > Willie.
>>> > The
>>> > father of my uncle  (related only by marriage) called himself Sam
>>> > instead of
>>> > > Salvatore.
>>> > >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>> > > From: Laura <laura at termini-imerese.org>
>>> > > > FORWARDED MESSAGE - ORIGINAL IN HTML FORMAT
>>> > > >
>>> > > > -------- Original Message --------
>>> > > > Subject: Salvatore=Sam?
>>> > > > Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:32:54 +0000
>>> > > > From: Mike Maddi <m.maddi at att.net>
>>> > > > To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Have people found that ancestors who were named Salvatore
>>> > > > Americanized
>>> > > > their name to "Sam" when they came to the U.S.? If not, what was
>>> > > > the
>>> > > > original Italian given name of ancestors who were called Sam?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Mike Maddi
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > _______________________________________________
>>> > > > TerminiImerese mailing list
>>> > > > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
>>> > > >
>>> http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org
>>> > >
>>> > >
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>>> > > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>
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From cherju at roadrunner.com  Sun Jul 20 02:17:40 2008
From: cherju at roadrunner.com (Sally Glenn)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:17:40 -0400
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
In-Reply-To: <234060.70917.qm@web35406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <234060.70917.qm@web35406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7A37C3EBC09347EB811586F3313DEF4D@home>

My mother was Ignazia and she went by Elsie as did her cousin. My 
grandfather was Ignazio and he went by Charles. My cousin is named Salvatora 
and she goes by Sally. I was named after my grandmother Salvatora and also 
go by Sally. Doesn't seem to be any rhyme nor reason.

Sally Ann Piazza Glenn
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Terry Skibiski" <tskibiski at yahoo.com>
To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]


> Our Salvatores are Sam, our Ignazios are Frank.
>
> from Terry, known to his students as "Your Royal Highness"
>
>> > Have people found that ancestors who were named
>> Salvatore Americanized
>> > their name to "Sam" when they came to the
>> U.S.? If not, what was the
>> > original Italian given name of ancestors who were
>> called Sam?
>> >
>> > Mike Maddi
>> >
>> >
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From acm605 at comcast.net  Sun Jul 20 03:20:11 2008
From: acm605 at comcast.net (Tony Massaro)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:20:11 +0000
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
Message-ID: <072020080020.2073.488284BB00080025000008192205889116CACFC0030C0E@comcast.net>

salvatore= sam
ignazio=charles
antonina=lena
michaela=ella

--
Tony Massaro
acm605 at comcast.net

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Terry Skibiski <tskibiski at yahoo.com>
> Our Salvatores are Sam, our Ignazios are Frank.
> 
> from Terry, known to his students as "Your Royal Highness"
> 
> > > Have people found that ancestors who were named
> > Salvatore Americanized 
> > > their name to "Sam" when they came to the
> > U.S.? If not, what was the 
> > > original Italian given name of ancestors who were
> > called Sam?
> > > 
> > > Mike Maddi
> > > 
> > > 
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From m.maddi at att.net  Sun Jul 20 04:20:00 2008
From: m.maddi at att.net (Mike Maddi)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:20:00 +0000
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
In-Reply-To: <PIENLBOKPJLMNBMPIHGIKEMCCCAA.gentracer@gentracer.com>
References: <071920082044.25571.4882521F000D2F68000063E322243429029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>
	<PIENLBOKPJLMNBMPIHGIKEMCCCAA.gentracer@gentracer.com>
Message-ID: <072020080120.9833.488292BF000EB8CD0000266922230647029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>

According to the Italian online phone directory, only 11 Sicilian comuni have listings for Vallelunga, 8 of them in Palermo province. The Vallelunga surname is the second most common surname in Trabia. It's also found today at low levels in Palermo and Termini Imerese.

These 3 comuni are on the north coast of Sicily. So I'm thinking that a Vallelunga who was a merchant or sailor from one of these three towns ended up in a small town in Calabria. Also, I have seen in the records for Mezzojuso where some abandoned children who died there were actually born in Palermo. So my great-grandfather was possibly born outside Mezzojuso, perhaps Palermo or nearby.

Mike


-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Kathy Kirkpatrick" <gentracekirkpatrick at jiwire-member.com>
>
> Mike,
> 
> They moved about a lot more than we give them credit for, so I wouldn't be
> surprised at a connection. Good luck in your search!
> 
> Kathy Kirkpatrick
> GenTracer
> PO Box 11955
> Salt Lake City, UT 84147
> 801 755 6991
> www.gentracer.com
> gentracer at gentracer.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
> [mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org]On Behalf Of Mike
> Maddi
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:44 PM
> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
> 
> 
> Kathy,
> 
> Thanks for the feedback.
> 
> I'm almost certain that this Salvatore Vallelonga is the grandfather, known
> as Sam, of a man with whom I have a close DNA match. He got the image of the
> birth certificate by e-mail from someone who's a descendant of his
> grandfather's brother. Someone had written on the record the name "Sam
> Vallonga" with a number under it that looks like a Social Security number.
> I've confirmed with Fred, my match, that the number is his grandfather's
> Social Security number.
> 
> So now I have to order the LDS microfilms for Fabrizia, Calabria, where
> Salvatore Vallelonga was born. I'm trying to establish some sort of
> connection between this Calabrian Vallelonga line and my great-grandfather,
> Nunzio Maddi. He was abandoned as an infant about 1845 and lived in
> Mezzojuso, where my grandfather was born. Hopefully, I'll come across a
> Vallelonga in this line who connects to Sicily. I believe the connection may
> be a Vallelunga from Trabia or possibly Termini Imerese.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Kathy Kirkpatrick" <gentrace at gentracer.com>
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > I've found that most Sams started out as Salvatores but not all Salvatores
> > became Sams. It depended more on the local population and the names most
> > popular there rather than a translation of the name. I work with a lot of
> > 20th century researchers trying to locate living heirs to intestate
> > probates and when they come to me with a question like this I have to
> > answer that no matter what their birth name, they could end up as ANYTHING
> > in the US. Sad, but true for those of us trying to connect the dots. Of
> > course, names like Ignazio and Natale are most likely to be something
> > unrecognizable, but the same can be said for Salvatore and Vincenzo.
> > Sorry, no simple answer. However, Sharon's comment about all the men in
> > her family with one Italian name ending up with the same English name is a
> > very valid point. Not the same names used for Salvatore in every family,
> > but the trend to use the same English names for successive generations was
> > often followed, as at home with the Italian names.
> >
> >
> > Kathy Kirkpatrick
> > GenTracer
> > PO Box 11955
> > Salt Lake City, UT 84147
> > 801-755-6991
> > gentrace at gentracer.com
> > www.gentracer.com
> >
> > > Sharon,
> > >
> > > It doesn't answer my question, but it was an interesting story.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > > From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
> > >>
> > > Mike, Uncle Willie (Salvatore) was actually born in Omaha, Nebraska in
> > > 1895.
> > > The Pitti family moved there from St. Louis around the time just before
> > > the
> > > great St. Louis cyclone, but then returned thereafter when my when
> grandma
> > > and
> > >> her twin were born in St. Louis in 1897.
> > >>
> > > The Pitti family originated in Florence, but after getting "escorted"
> out
> > > of
> > > town with the Medici, they took their money and headed south to Sicily
> > > where
> > > their money would go much farther because everything was so much
> cheaper,
> > > like
> > > the real estate, etc.  They ended up in the Palermo region and then to
> > > Porticello/Termini/Cefalo/Campfelice de Rocella/Belmonte Mezzagno.  They
> > > brought
> > >> with them their education and music (many violinists in the family).
> > >>
> > > When coming to America, most about 1888-1910, they considered themselves
> > > Sicilian.  Although, I know of one small branch who refuse to believe
> that
> > > the
> > > family went to Sicily...they think that there was just a
> misunderstanding
> > > with
> > >> the people of Florence and the aristocrats. Being a Sicilian is a
> > >> "dirty" word
> > >> to them.  So sad. They don't know what they are missing.  i have shared
> > >> my
> > >> documentation with them, but they still refuse to believe.
> > >>
> > >> So, I guess they had to go through Calabria to get to Palermo in the
> > >> 1600s, if
> > >> you look at it that way.  Does that answer your question?  Probably
> not.
> > >>  Oh,
> > >> well.
> > >>
> > >> Sharon
> > >>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > >> From: "Mike Maddi" <m.maddi at att.net>
> > >> > By any chance, was your Uncle Salvatore, who called himself Sam, from
> > >> southern
> > >> > Italy, not Sicily.
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm trying to establish for someone with Calabrian ancestry, whether
> a
> > >> Calabrian
> > >> > birth record is that of his grandfather. The date of birth and
> surname
> > >> match
> > >> his
> > >> > grandfather, but the given name is Salvatore and he only knows his
> > >> grandfather
> > >> > as "Sam."
> > >> >
> > >> > Mike
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > >> > From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
> > >> > >
> > >> > Mike, all of my family Salvatore's called themselves William or
> > >> Willie.  The
> > >> > father of my uncle  (related only by marriage) called himself Sam
> > >> instead of
> > >> > > Salvatore.
> > >> > >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > >> > > From: Laura <laura at termini-imerese.org>
> > >> > > > FORWARDED MESSAGE - ORIGINAL IN HTML FORMAT
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > >> > > > Subject: 	Salvatore=Sam?
> > >> > > > Date: 	Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:32:54 +0000
> > >> > > > From: 	Mike Maddi <m.maddi at att.net>
> > >> > > > To: 	terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Have people found that ancestors who were named Salvatore
> > >> Americanized
> > >> > > > their name to "Sam" when they came to the U.S.? If not, what was
> > >> the
> > >> > > > original Italian given name of ancestors who were called Sam?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Mike Maddi
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> 
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From anniegoe at access995.com  Sun Jul 20 15:56:05 2008
From: anniegoe at access995.com (anniegoe)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:56:05 -0400
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
References: <072020080020.2073.488284BB00080025000008192205889116CACFC0030C0E@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001401c8ea67$f97c8ec0$0a6e4845@DJZBSK81>

giovanni =John

See www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/8783/givenname.html
for more name translations.
Ann
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Massaro" <acm605 at comcast.net>
To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]


> salvatore= sam
> ignazio=charles
> antonina=lena
> michaela=ella
>
> --
> Tony Massaro
> acm605 at comcast.net
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Terry Skibiski <tskibiski at yahoo.com>
>> Our Salvatores are Sam, our Ignazios are Frank.
>>
>> from Terry, known to his students as "Your Royal Highness"
>>
>> > > Have people found that ancestors who were named
>> > Salvatore Americanized
>> > > their name to "Sam" when they came to the
>> > U.S.? If not, what was the
>> > > original Italian given name of ancestors who were
>> > called Sam?
>> > >
>> > > Mike Maddi
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > TerminiImerese mailing list
>> > > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> > >
>> > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org
>> >
>> >
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From sclark5701 at mchsi.com  Sun Jul 20 20:11:44 2008
From: sclark5701 at mchsi.com (Sandra Clark)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:11:44 -0500
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
In-Reply-To: <071920082044.25571.4882521F000D2F68000063E322243429029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>
References: <071920081936.13492.4882423B00058BA7000034B42206424413C0CAC7CE00070A9D9C@comcast.net>	<071920081946.29977.4882448E000768D10000751922243429029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>	<51948.72.32.68.71.1216499478.squirrel@webmail.gentracer.com>
	<071920082044.25571.4882521F000D2F68000063E322243429029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>
Message-ID: <488371D0.1080204@mchsi.com>

Mike, what Vallelonga's are from TI? i have some from there.

Sandy

Mike Maddi wrote:

> Kathy,
> 
> Thanks for the feedback.
> 
> I'm almost certain that this Salvatore Vallelonga is the grandfather,
> known as Sam, of a man with whom I have a close DNA match. He got the
> image of the birth certificate by e-mail from someone who's a
> descendant of his grandfather's brother. Someone had written on the
> record the name "Sam Vallonga" with a number under it that looks like
> a Social Security number. I've confirmed with Fred, my match, that
> the number is his grandfather's Social Security number.
> 
> So now I have to order the LDS microfilms for Fabrizia, Calabria,
> where Salvatore Vallelonga was born. I'm trying to establish some
> sort of connection between this Calabrian Vallelonga line and my
> great-grandfather, Nunzio Maddi. He was abandoned as an infant about
> 1845 and lived in Mezzojuso, where my grandfather was born.
> Hopefully, I'll come across a Vallelonga in this line who connects to
> Sicily. I believe the connection may be a Vallelunga from Trabia or
> possibly Termini Imerese.
> 
> Mike
> 




From m.maddi at att.net  Sun Jul 20 20:55:04 2008
From: m.maddi at att.net (Mike Maddi)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:55:04 +0000
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
In-Reply-To: <488371D0.1080204@mchsi.com>
References: <071920081936.13492.4882423B00058BA7000034B42206424413C0CAC7CE00070A9D9C@comcast.net>	<071920081946.29977.4882448E000768D10000751922243429029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>	<51948.72.32.68.71.1216499478.squirrel@webmail.gentracer.com>
	<071920082044.25571.4882521F000D2F68000063E322243429029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>
	<488371D0.1080204@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <072020081755.22192.48837BF80001E5AD000056B022193100029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>

Sandy,

Are they Vallelongas or Vallelungas? My DNA match's ancestors were Vallelongas from Calabria. 

In general, the Sicilian spelling variation for the name is Vallelunga. However, someone pointed out to me that the familysearch.org website has researchers listing the Vallelonga surname in the Termini Imerese records. I don't know whether to trust that, since I've seen some really bad misspellings in their database.

If you have some ancestors from TI named Vallelonga, with that spelling, I'd be very interested in taking a look at their records.

Mike

  
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Sandra Clark <sclark5701 at mchsi.com>
>
> Mike, what Vallelonga's are from TI? i have some from there.
> 
> Sandy
> 
> Mike Maddi wrote:
> 
> > Kathy,
> > 
> > Thanks for the feedback.
> > 
> > I'm almost certain that this Salvatore Vallelonga is the grandfather,
> > known as Sam, of a man with whom I have a close DNA match. He got the
> > image of the birth certificate by e-mail from someone who's a
> > descendant of his grandfather's brother. Someone had written on the
> > record the name "Sam Vallonga" with a number under it that looks like
> > a Social Security number. I've confirmed with Fred, my match, that
> > the number is his grandfather's Social Security number.
> > 
> > So now I have to order the LDS microfilms for Fabrizia, Calabria,
> > where Salvatore Vallelonga was born. I'm trying to establish some
> > sort of connection between this Calabrian Vallelonga line and my
> > great-grandfather, Nunzio Maddi. He was abandoned as an infant about
> > 1845 and lived in Mezzojuso, where my grandfather was born.
> > Hopefully, I'll come across a Vallelonga in this line who connects to
> > Sicily. I believe the connection may be a Vallelunga from Trabia or
> > possibly Termini Imerese.
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> 
> 
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From rngade57 at madisontelco.com  Sun Jul 20 21:09:30 2008
From: rngade57 at madisontelco.com (Laura Johnson)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:09:30 -0500
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
In-Reply-To: <072020081755.22192.48837BF80001E5AD000056B022193100029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>
References: <071920081936.13492.4882423B00058BA7000034B42206424413C0CAC7CE00070A9D9C@comcast.net>	<071920081946.29977.4882448E000768D10000751922243429029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>	<51948.72.32.68.71.1216499478.squirrel@webmail.gentracer.com>	<071920082044.25571.4882521F000D2F68000063E322243429029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>	<488371D0.1080204@mchsi.com>
	<072020081755.22192.48837BF80001E5AD000056B022193100029B0A02D29B9B0EBF070B0B0E03D203@att.net>
Message-ID: <48837F5A.9090008@madisontelco.com>

Mike,
There are both spellings in the TI database
Vallelonga and Vallelunga

Mike Maddi wrote:
> Sandy,
>
> Are they Vallelongas or Vallelungas? My DNA match's ancestors were Vallelongas from Calabria. 
>
> In general, the Sicilian spelling variation for the name is Vallelunga. However, someone pointed out to me that the familysearch.org website has researchers listing the Vallelonga surname in the Termini Imerese records. I don't know whether to trust that, since I've seen some really bad misspellings in their database.
>
> If you have some ancestors from TI named Vallelonga, with that spelling, I'd be very interested in taking a look at their records.
>
> Mike
>
>   
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Sandra Clark <sclark5701 at mchsi.com>
>   
>> Mike, what Vallelonga's are from TI? i have some from there.
>>
>> Sandy
>>
>> Mike Maddi wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Kathy,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the feedback.
>>>
>>> I'm almost certain that this Salvatore Vallelonga is the grandfather,
>>> known as Sam, of a man with whom I have a close DNA match. He got the
>>> image of the birth certificate by e-mail from someone who's a
>>> descendant of his grandfather's brother. Someone had written on the
>>> record the name "Sam Vallonga" with a number under it that looks like
>>> a Social Security number. I've confirmed with Fred, my match, that
>>> the number is his grandfather's Social Security number.
>>>
>>> So now I have to order the LDS microfilms for Fabrizia, Calabria,
>>> where Salvatore Vallelonga was born. I'm trying to establish some
>>> sort of connection between this Calabrian Vallelonga line and my
>>> great-grandfather, Nunzio Maddi. He was abandoned as an infant about
>>> 1845 and lived in Mezzojuso, where my grandfather was born.
>>> Hopefully, I'll come across a Vallelonga in this line who connects to
>>> Sicily. I believe the connection may be a Vallelunga from Trabia or
>>> possibly Termini Imerese.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>       
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>
>
>
>
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From mygirl at ctc.net  Fri Jul 25 21:17:42 2008
From: mygirl at ctc.net (Rosalie Amison)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:17:42 -0400
Subject: [TI] Sansone
In-Reply-To: <CDD4F4A6F1CAE84F86242644AD42B1D7FB70B8@mailserver.lecomintra.net>
References: <116185.25994.qm@web90608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<027d01c8ee6a$5eff8fd0$6401a8c0@mccarthy>
	<CDD4F4A6F1CAE84F86242644AD42B1D7FB70B8@mailserver.lecomintra.net>
Message-ID: <007001c8ee82$bb1b3220$31519660$@net>

Tom are you on the Termini Database?  Just curious.  
Rosalie Amison

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Thomas
Corso, PhD
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 11:42 AM
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Subject: Re: [TI] Sansone

Jim

I only have the Corso branch of my family mapped back to about 1880.  If
I could get some information to take it back one or two more
generations, I am sure I would have dozens of new connections.  I know
that I had/have Corso relatives in New York state and Louisville
Kentucky, but I don't know who they are or how they are connected.  

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Jim
McCarthy
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 11:23 AM
To: joanhegstad at yahoo.com; terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Subject: Re: [TI] Sansone

Ignazia Mercurio is related to my wife [cf. 
http://www.reshippie.net/genealogy/moreci.txt  ,esp #10, and #27]. Jim
McCarthy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joan Hegstad" <joanhegstad at yahoo.com>
To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TI] Sansone


>I have a Saverio "Charles" Corso 1881-1939 in my tree.  His parents 
>were Onofrio Corso and Ignazia Mercurio.  He lived in Chicago.  Any
connection?
>
> Joan Dattilo Hegstad
>
>
> --- On Mon, 7/21/08, Kim Sansone <kimsansone at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> From: Kim Sansone <kimsansone at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TI] Sansone
>> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 6:48 PM
>> How funny... My grandmother's maiden name is Corso and married a 
>> Sansone.
>>
>> I grew up in Ballwin and live in the next town over called Ellisville

>> MO....
>>
>> My great Grandfather was Ignazio Corso... We have been told that he 
>> had brothers that lived in Chicago, but I haven't been able to prove 
>> that.  His brother's names were Agostino and Matteo... Sound 
>> familiar?
>>
>>
>> --- "Thomas Corso, PhD" <tcorso at lecom.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Kim,
>> >
>> > My grandmother's maiden name was Sansone and her married name was 
>> > Corso.
>> > She had three Children, my father (Frank Corso) who stayed in 
>> > Chicago, A daughter Josie, who married Joseph Traina.  And another 
>> > daughter Zina that married Tony Dahlia (which is the Americanized 
>> > spelling of Adalia).
>> > Their son currently lives in Ballwin, Mo.
>> >
>> > Tom
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
>> > [mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org]
>> > On Behalf Of Kim
>> > Sansone
>> > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 7:08 AM
>> > To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> > Subject: Re: [TI] Question
>> >
>> > Tom,
>> >
>> > What was your grandmother's maiden name?
>> >
>> > What's your cousins name that lives in St. Louis?
>> >
>> > Kim
>> > --- Jim McCarthy <jimhmc at comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Tom you might check my work at www.reshippie.net
>> > to see if you are
>> > > related to my wife.  Jim McCarthy, Somerville, MA
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Thomas Corso, PhD"
>> <tcorso at lecom.edu>
>> > > To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
>> > > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 8:54 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: [TI] Question
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Kim,
>> > > >
>> > > > My grandmother's maiden name was
>> Sansone.  I
>> > don't
>> > > see any connection
>> > > > between our families, but I will hold on to
>> your
>> > > information as I
>> > > > continue my research.  My family came to
>> Chicago
>> > > from Termini.  I do
>> > > > have a cousin in St Louis and I use to live
>> > there
>> > > between 93 and 97.
>> > > >
>> > > > Good Luck,
>> > > >
>> > > > Tom (now living in Erie, PA)
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From:
>> terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
>> > > >
>> > [mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org]
>> > > On Behalf Of Kim
>> > > > Sansone
>> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 5:52 PM
>> > > > To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> > > > Subject: Re: [TI] Question
>> > > >
>> > > > Steve,
>> > > >
>> > > > I noticed you live in Pawtucket RI.. I am
>> not
>> > sure
>> > > how close to
>> > > > Providence that is, but I have a question
>> for
>> > > you...
>> > > >
>> > > > My great grandmother's family lived in
>> > Providence.
>> > > I have found the ship
>> > > > records showing her two brothers coming to
>> the
>> > > US... It states they were
>> > > > going to Providence to meet their cousin
>> > Salvatore
>> > > Catanzaro.
>> > > >
>> > > > I am not sure what side of the family this
>> > > Catanzaro relative is on as I
>> > > > have not found Catanzaro's in this
>> family line.
>> > > Their names were
>> > > > Salvatore and Bartolomeo Gentile.
>> > > >
>> > > > Bartolomeo married Teresa Ciaccio but I do
>> not
>> > > believe they had
>> > > > children.
>> > > >
>> > > > Salvatore Gentile married Rosaria Galluzzo
>> and
>> > > their children are as
>> > > > follows:
>> > > >
>> > > > Filippa (Filomena) married Carlo Calcagni
>> > > >
>> > > > Children of Filomena and Carlo
>> > > >    Concetta and Nicolina
>> > > >
>> > > > Ignazia (Nancy) Gentile married Thomas
>> DiSanto
>> > > >
>> > > > Children of Ignazia and Thomas
>> > > >
>> > > >      Amelia (Lee) and Emilio (Nick)
>> > > >
>> > > > Cosimo Gentile married Frances Adessi
>> > > >
>> > > > Children of Cosimo and Frances
>> > > >
>> > > >      Salvatore and Rose
>> > > >
>> > > > Ignazio Gentile - I don't believe he
>> married.
>> > > >
>> > > > Let me know if there is a connection.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks
>> > > >
>> > > > Kim Sansone
>> > > > St. Louis MO
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --- Rosalie Amison <mygirl at ctc.net>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> http://www.termini-imerese.org/ Try this site and scroll down 
>> > > >> to
>> Pictures of
>> > Past
>> > > >> Reunions.  I have never
>> > > >> been but the pictures will give you an
>> idea.
>> > > >> Roasalie Amison
>> > > >>
>> > > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> From:
>> terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> [mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org]
>> > > >> On Behalf Of
>> > > >> steve at catanzarofoodproducts.com
>> > > >> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:33 PM
>> > > >> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> > > >> Subject: [TI] Question
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Hello all,
>> > > >> I am new to TI and I was wondering about
>> the
>> > > reunion
>> > > >> this year. What exactly
>> > > >> happens there and what or how would I
>> benefit
>> > > from
>> > > >> it. I have visited Sicily
>> > > >> twice and have spent a lot of time in
>> Termini.
>> > I
>> > > >> also have done some
>> > > >> research regarding my family tree.
>> > > >> If anyone can enlighten me on the
>> reunion I
>> > would
>> > > >> greatly appreciate it.
>> > > >> Thanks
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Steven J. Catanzaro
>> > > >> Catanzaro Food Products Inc.
>> > > >> Pawtucket, RI 02860
>> > > >> www.catanzarofoodproducts.com
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> _______________________________________________
>> > > >> TerminiImerese mailing list
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>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofit
>> aly
>> > > > .org
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
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>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofit
>> aly
>> > > > .org
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
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>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
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>> > > > .org
>> > > >
>> >
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From gotto at ameritech.net  Sat Jul 26 03:52:47 2008
From: gotto at ameritech.net (Gloria Otto)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:52:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] Database
Message-ID: <828997.35589.qm@web81808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

When I try to connect to the database, I get the following message. Hope that was not a secret password.

Cannot connect to MySQL: Access denied for user 'johnsonl_Laura'@'localhost' (using password: YES)

?Anyone else having problems connecting to the database?? Thanks.Gloria




From laura at termini-imerese.org  Sat Jul 26 03:59:37 2008
From: laura at termini-imerese.org (Laura)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:59:37 -0500
Subject: [TI] Database
In-Reply-To: <828997.35589.qm@web81808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <828997.35589.qm@web81808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <488A76F9.5070206@termini-imerese.org>

The server is upgrading and the problem will be corrected  soon.

No, that is not anyone's secret password

Gloria Otto wrote:
> When I try to connect to the database, I get the following message. Hope that was not a secret password.
>
> Cannot connect to MySQL: Access denied for user 'johnsonl_Laura'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
>
>  Anyone else having problems connecting to the database?  Thanks.Gloria
>
>
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From ltedesco26 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 26 04:28:10 2008
From: ltedesco26 at yahoo.com (Larie Tedesco)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:28:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] Database
Message-ID: <953306.97565.qm@web36206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I didn't get in, had same message.



----- Original Message ----
From: Gloria Otto <gotto at ameritech.net>
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 7:52:47 PM
Subject: [TI] Database

When I try to connect to the database, I get the following message. Hope that was not a secret password.

Cannot connect to MySQL: Access denied for user 'johnsonl_Laura'@'localhost' (using password: YES)

?Anyone else having problems connecting to the database?? Thanks.Gloria


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From mygirl at ctc.net  Sat Jul 26 04:47:35 2008
From: mygirl at ctc.net (Rosalie Amison)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:47:35 -0400
Subject: [TI] Database
In-Reply-To: <828997.35589.qm@web81808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <828997.35589.qm@web81808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <009e01c8eec1$94054010$bc0fc030$@net>

Yes Gloria, I'm not getting through either.  Looks like when Laura was
having trouble before.  They may be doing something to the site, updates or
changing format.  I don't know.  We will know in time.
Rosi

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Gloria Otto
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:53 PM
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Subject: [TI] Database

When I try to connect to the database, I get the following message. Hope
that was not a secret password.

Cannot connect to MySQL: Access denied for user 'johnsonl_Laura'@'localhost'
(using password: YES)

?Anyone else having problems connecting to the database?? Thanks.Gloria


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From rngade57 at madisontelco.com  Sat Jul 26 15:18:23 2008
From: rngade57 at madisontelco.com (Laura Johnson)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:18:23 -0500
Subject: [TI] Database
In-Reply-To: <828997.35589.qm@web81808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <828997.35589.qm@web81808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <488B160F.1040809@madisontelco.com>

The server is going through a series of upgrades.  Hopefully everything 
will be back to normal later today



From rngade57 at madisontelco.com  Sat Jul 26 18:03:32 2008
From: rngade57 at madisontelco.com (Laura Johnson)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:03:32 -0500
Subject: [TI] Database  - Server is finished updating.
In-Reply-To: <488B160F.1040809@madisontelco.com>
References: <828997.35589.qm@web81808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<488B160F.1040809@madisontelco.com>
Message-ID: <488B3CC4.7010605@madisontelco.com>

All should be fine again on the database.

Laura Johnson wrote:
> The server is going through a series of upgrades.  Hopefully everything 
> will be back to normal later today
>
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From ken_geraci at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 27 18:04:50 2008
From: ken_geraci at yahoo.com (Ken Geraci)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:04:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=ToTo]
In-Reply-To: <072520080043.17318.488921AF0007B2E7000043A6221357533301900704010A0C0E9D09@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <966766.56529.qm@web65708.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

I have heard "ToTo" also for Salvatore. My elderly cousin, Mike Marcellino, told me a few years ago about a Salvatore relative who used the nickname "ToTo". Perhaps "ToTo" is a separate nickname in addition to "Turri"? Maybe "ToTo" is a playful derivative of the middle part of salvaTOre?

My other cousin, Sal Marcellino, goes by the American nickname "Sonny" for Sal.

Ken Geraci

--- On Thu, 7/24/08, graceolivo at comcast.net <graceolivo at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: graceolivo at comcast.net <graceolivo at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 7:43 PM
> Sicilians call Salvatores "Turridu" and sometimes
> it's abbreviated to "Turri" - could that be
> what you're hearing?
> 
> Grace Lancieri Olivo
> www.italianancestry.com/coi
> 
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "anniegoe" <anniegoe at access995.com>
> > Madeleine my cousin from Sicily is Toto!  His name is
> Salvatore. When he 
> > visited 2 years ago we enjoyed him so much.  He never
> quit talking, and we 
> > could not understand him.  A cousin was our
> interpreter.  We did not 
> > understand Sicilian or Italian.  My Mother was born in
> American my Father 
> > was born in Villarosa.  I think your friend Rose has
> that connection.
> > Ann
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "M GILL" <mgill494 at rogers.com>
> > To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > >>My father was born Salvatore and was called
> Sam.
> > > His first grandson was named after him and is
> called
> > > Sal.
> > > We have many Salvatore's in our family tree.
> Tg\he new
> > > generation are called Sal.
> > > In Termini they are called TO To .
> > > Madeleine
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
> > >
> http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org
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> > 
> > 
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> >
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From anniegoe at access995.com  Sun Jul 27 22:38:56 2008
From: anniegoe at access995.com (anniegoe)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:38:56 -0400
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=ToTo]
References: <966766.56529.qm@web65708.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000601c8f020$69638a50$876e4845@DJZBSK81>

Welcome back.
Toto is very common in Sicily for Salvatore. Remember 96 year old Lena, her 
brother was called Tori.
For those of you who met Lena, she was 96 7/7 and her son died 7/8. 
(Franciene, Ken, Josi)
Ann

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Geraci" <ken_geraci at yahoo.com>
To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=ToTo]


>I have heard "ToTo" also for Salvatore. My elderly cousin, Mike Marcellino, 
>told me a few years ago about a Salvatore relative who used the nickname 
>"ToTo". Perhaps "ToTo" is a separate nickname in addition to "Turri"? Maybe 
>"ToTo" is a playful derivative of the middle part of salvaTOre?
>
> My other cousin, Sal Marcellino, goes by the American nickname "Sonny" for 
> Sal.
>
> Ken Geraci
>
> --- On Thu, 7/24/08, graceolivo at comcast.net <graceolivo at comcast.net> 
> wrote:
>
>> From: graceolivo at comcast.net <graceolivo at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
>> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 7:43 PM
>> Sicilians call Salvatores "Turridu" and sometimes
>> it's abbreviated to "Turri" - could that be
>> what you're hearing?
>>
>> Grace Lancieri Olivo
>> www.italianancestry.com/coi
>>
>>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: "anniegoe" <anniegoe at access995.com>
>> > Madeleine my cousin from Sicily is Toto!  His name is
>> Salvatore. When he
>> > visited 2 years ago we enjoyed him so much.  He never
>> quit talking, and we
>> > could not understand him.  A cousin was our
>> interpreter.  We did not
>> > understand Sicilian or Italian.  My Mother was born in
>> American my Father
>> > was born in Villarosa.  I think your friend Rose has
>> that connection.
>> > Ann
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "M GILL" <mgill494 at rogers.com>
>> > To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:21 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > >>My father was born Salvatore and was called
>> Sam.
>> > > His first grandson was named after him and is
>> called
>> > > Sal.
>> > > We have many Salvatore's in our family tree.
>> Tg\he new
>> > > generation are called Sal.
>> > > In Termini they are called TO To .
>> > > Madeleine
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > TerminiImerese mailing list
>> > > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> > >
>> http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org
>>
>> >
>> >
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>> >
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From rngade57 at madisontelco.com  Mon Jul 28 01:30:26 2008
From: rngade57 at madisontelco.com (Laura Johnson)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:30:26 -0500
Subject: [TI] The Termini Imerese Certificate Database has been updated
 - July 27, 2008
In-Reply-To: <481DB251.9050807@madisontelco.com>
References: <47DDD1CE.7090605@madisontelco.com>
	<481DB251.9050807@madisontelco.com>
Message-ID: <488CF702.5010703@madisontelco.com>

PLEASE READ CAREFULLY - THERE ARE CHANGES TO THE FORMAT OF THE DATABASE

The Certificate Database has been updated today.

Please note:  The DATE format has been changed into Month Day Year with each being in a separate column.  This corrects the problems with the 1900 dates that were numberical instead of written out.  Now all three columns will only contain numbers.

There have been some problems over the last two days in the process of this updating as well as the website was moved to another server on the same hosting site which should increase the performance. 

With this new format, I will now be able to add new documents more frequently as soon as they become available to be added to the database.  I will now be able to change individuals entries for errors, misspellings, etc without going thru the whole process of reloading the whole database.  But I will only do this when I have several to change at one time.  

As always, you can always check http://www.termini-imerese.org/IndicesAvailable.htm to see what has been added to the database.

You will also notice, we are slowly closing the gap to getting all of the births, marriages and deaths transcribed. 

The following documents have been added to the database in this update:

Film #2014479
       Births 1897 - Docs #576 to end (end of Nov thru end of Dec) and 
Handwritten #1-#90
       Births 1898
       Births 1899
       Births 1900

Film #2014202
       Births 1871
       Births 1872
       Births 1873

Film #2014635
       Deaths 1871


      





From jlip37 at verizon.net  Mon Jul 28 03:39:46 2008
From: jlip37 at verizon.net (Joan Petrulis)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:39:46 -0500
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=ToTo]
References: <966766.56529.qm@web65708.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001801c8f04a$7006f750$4001a8c0@Gonzo>

Yes, I have a grandfather Salvatore Chiaramonte who was called Sam and I 
have an uncle Salvatore Indovina who was called Toto (with the accent on the 
second syllable).
Joan Petrulis


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Geraci" <ken_geraci at yahoo.com>
To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=ToTo]


>I have heard "ToTo" also for Salvatore. My elderly cousin, Mike Marcellino, 
>told me a few years ago about a Salvatore relative who used the nickname 
>"ToTo". Perhaps "ToTo" is a separate nickname in addition to "Turri"? Maybe 
>"ToTo" is a playful derivative of the middle part of salvaTOre?
>
> My other cousin, Sal Marcellino, goes by the American nickname "Sonny" for 
> Sal.
>
> Ken Geraci
>
> --- On Thu, 7/24/08, graceolivo at comcast.net <graceolivo at comcast.net> 
> wrote:
>
>> From: graceolivo at comcast.net <graceolivo at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
>> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 7:43 PM
>> Sicilians call Salvatores "Turridu" and sometimes
>> it's abbreviated to "Turri" - could that be
>> what you're hearing?
>>
>> Grace Lancieri Olivo
>> www.italianancestry.com/coi
>>
>>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: "anniegoe" <anniegoe at access995.com>
>> > Madeleine my cousin from Sicily is Toto!  His name is
>> Salvatore. When he
>> > visited 2 years ago we enjoyed him so much.  He never
>> quit talking, and we
>> > could not understand him.  A cousin was our
>> interpreter.  We did not
>> > understand Sicilian or Italian.  My Mother was born in
>> American my Father
>> > was born in Villarosa.  I think your friend Rose has
>> that connection.
>> > Ann
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "M GILL" <mgill494 at rogers.com>
>> > To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:21 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > >>My father was born Salvatore and was called
>> Sam.
>> > > His first grandson was named after him and is
>> called
>> > > Sal.
>> > > We have many Salvatore's in our family tree.
>> Tg\he new
>> > > generation are called Sal.
>> > > In Termini they are called TO To .
>> > > Madeleine
>> > >
>> > >
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From nancy at yesu5.com  Mon Jul 28 03:57:43 2008
From: nancy at yesu5.com (Nancy Yesu)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:57:43 -0400
Subject: [TI] Toto
Message-ID: <488D1987.6070409@yesu5.com>

My uncle Salvatore was called Toto
Spam score
-100.0/5.0



From ken_geraci at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 28 05:30:37 2008
From: ken_geraci at yahoo.com (Ken Geraci)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:30:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=ToTo]
In-Reply-To: <001801c8f04a$7006f750$4001a8c0@Gonzo>
Message-ID: <513973.77768.qm@web65711.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

Yes,

My Marcellino cousins also put the accent on the 2nd syllable and said "toTO" for Salvatore.

Ken Geraci
(heading back on the road tonight, nice to have been back on the list for the past day, see everyone in Cleveland if not sooner!)


--- On Sun, 7/27/08, Joan Petrulis <jlip37 at verizon.net> wrote:

> From: Joan Petrulis <jlip37 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=ToTo]
> To: ken_geraci at yahoo.com, terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 7:39 PM
> Yes, I have a grandfather Salvatore Chiaramonte who was
> called Sam and I 
> have an uncle Salvatore Indovina who was called Toto (with
> the accent on the 
> second syllable).
> Joan Petrulis
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ken Geraci" <ken_geraci at yahoo.com>
> To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 10:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=ToTo]
> 
> 
> >I have heard "ToTo" also for Salvatore. My
> elderly cousin, Mike Marcellino, 
> >told me a few years ago about a Salvatore relative who
> used the nickname 
> >"ToTo". Perhaps "ToTo" is a
> separate nickname in addition to "Turri"? Maybe 
> >"ToTo" is a playful derivative of the middle
> part of salvaTOre?
> >
> > My other cousin, Sal Marcellino, goes by the American
> nickname "Sonny" for 
> > Sal.
> >
> > Ken Geraci
> >
> > --- On Thu, 7/24/08, graceolivo at comcast.net
> <graceolivo at comcast.net> 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> From: graceolivo at comcast.net
> <graceolivo at comcast.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
> >> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> >> Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 7:43 PM
> >> Sicilians call Salvatores "Turridu" and
> sometimes
> >> it's abbreviated to "Turri" - could
> that be
> >> what you're hearing?
> >>
> >> Grace Lancieri Olivo
> >> www.italianancestry.com/coi
> >>
> >>  -------------- Original message
> ----------------------
> >> From: "anniegoe"
> <anniegoe at access995.com>
> >> > Madeleine my cousin from Sicily is Toto!  His
> name is
> >> Salvatore. When he
> >> > visited 2 years ago we enjoyed him so much. 
> He never
> >> quit talking, and we
> >> > could not understand him.  A cousin was our
> >> interpreter.  We did not
> >> > understand Sicilian or Italian.  My Mother
> was born in
> >> American my Father
> >> > was born in Villarosa.  I think your friend
> Rose has
> >> that connection.
> >> > Ann
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: "M GILL"
> <mgill494 at rogers.com>
> >> > To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:21 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >>My father was born Salvatore and was
> called
> >> Sam.
> >> > > His first grandson was named after him
> and is
> >> called
> >> > > Sal.
> >> > > We have many Salvatore's in our
> family tree.
> >> Tg\he new
> >> > > generation are called Sal.
> >> > > In Termini they are called TO To .
> >> > > Madeleine
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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> >> > >
> >>
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> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
> >>
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> >>
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> >
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From italiancousin at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 29 01:58:06 2008
From: italiancousin at yahoo.com (Roseann Lemp)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:58:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] Family Video
In-Reply-To: <20080620035449.EJMS4520.mta9.adelphia.net@homelgpuznx0ss>
Message-ID: <64763.59997.qm@web39208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Kim if you still have the old St Louis phone book I am looking for Longo,Brugnone,Sansone and Corso....Any help will be appreciated..

Thanks,
Roseann Longo Lemp


--- On Thu, 6/19/08, Ann Catalano <anncat1029 at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> From: Ann Catalano <anncat1029 at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [TI] Family Video
> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 11:50 PM
> Kim -
> 
> I have done many of these for my family and friends.  What
> program are you
> using?  Here's a few I have used . . .Sisters (Rosemary
> Clooney sang this in
> that Christmas Movie.  Better Midler sings it with Linda
> Rondstadt on her
> Bette Midler Sings the Rosemary Clooney Songbook album) . .
> .  In My Life by
> the Beatles . . .I Watch You Sleeping by John Denver . . .
> Lullabye
> (Goodnight, My Angel) by Billy Joel.
> 
> If I think of anymore, I will let you know.
> 
> Ann Catalano
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
> [mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On
> Behalf Of Kim Sansone
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 6:55 PM
> To: Termini Website
> Subject: [TI] Family Video
> 
> I am trying to create a family video/presentation for
> a family reunion we have every year around Labor Day. 
> I am trying to find some songs to put to the
> presentation, but can only come up with "We are
> Family".  Does anyone have any suggestions?  
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Kim 
> 
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From graceolivo at comcast.net  Wed Jul 30 23:53:49 2008
From: graceolivo at comcast.net (Grace Olivo)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:53:49 -0400
Subject: [TI] LECCE Province (Puglia) July-Aug 08 Comunes of Italy Magazine
Message-ID: <000201c8f286$5e005a40$0501a8c0@Dimension>




The July-August 2008 issue of the Comunes of Italy Magazine is being mailed
to all subscribers beginning today. This issue features Lecce Province in
Puglia/Apulia. It also has a host of great articles sure to be of interest
to all [index below].  

Anyone interested in more information about the magazine, which is dedicated
to Italian genealogy, is invited to visit our webpage at
http://www.ItalianAncestry.com/coi or drop me an e-mail at
GraceOlivo at Comcast.Net or ComunesofItaly at Comcast.Net for more information.

Here's a sneak peek at the index:

...Australian Immigration Records

...Book Review: Sicily! Up Close!

...Hills of Liguria Part 3 - Varese Ligure Church Records Offline

...Lecce Province, Puglia: History, Towns, Postal Codes, Tourist office,
Archivio di Stato, Catholic Churches

...Lignaggio: Reuniting the Past with the Present

...New Surnames Submitted Since Last Issue

...Top 20 Surnames in Italy

...Translation of Sample Italian Birth Certificate

...Web Corner

Grace Lancieri Olivo, GraceOlivo at Comcast.Net
Editor, Comunes of Italy Magazine, ComunesOfItaly at Comcast.Net 
Chair, OSIA CSJ-New Jersey
 http://www.ItalianAncestry.com/coi
http://www.ItalianAncestry.com/tito






From arini at core.com  Thu Jul 31 06:32:48 2008
From: arini at core.com (Tony Rini)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:32:48 -0400
Subject: [TI] New Cleveland Point Chapter
Message-ID: <HFEPJPCDICNOJCBEAKOJMEBACPAA.arini@core.com>

Hello Cleveland area Termini members,
At a Villa Angela St Joseph Football Kick-off Banquet and Raffle last
Saturday, for my son's  VASJ Viking football team, I ran into a gentlemen
named Phil Rini.  Phil graduated from the original Cleveland St Joseph High
School in 1978 and I was a freshmen there in 1979.  For years I heard of
Phil because he was a very successful state-placing wrestler and football
player at St Joes.  Phil is also a well known stock broker in Cleveland at
Fifth Third Investments in downtown Cleveland, the same as my father who is
also a stock broker.  I was always asked teachers, coaches, and alumni if I
was related to Phil. I usually told them I probably was but did not know
how. We exchanged information last week at the event and in e-mails and as
it turns out, my grandfather and his great grandfather were brothers!! It
goes to show you that you never know where or when you will turn up a
cousin.

As it turns out, Phil's friend, fellow stock broker, and fellow Sicilian,
Tom Cirincione, has started up a Cleveland Chapter of POINT (Pursuing Our
Italian Names Together).  Tom and I have been exchanging e-mails about
Sicily, family trees, and the new Point chapter.  The Cleveland Chapter of
Point has 25 members and is welcoming more.  I offered to post invite the
Cleveland area members of our Termini Imerese group to the next meeting. Tom
was excited to get the word out to our group and would love to have
Cleveland area Termini Imerese members join POINT.

So everyone is invited to join POINT and to attend the next meeting.  The
next meeting is Saturday August 23rd at Fairview Park library from
10AM-12PM. The genealogy librarian will give us an overview of the genealogy
collection there after we conclude our agenda. As Tom explained, obviously
the group is all about sharing ideas. He is excited to have members of the
Termini Group because he thinks that some of the things you have done are
tremendous and the Cleveland Point group would love to hear what you have
done for your trees and families.  Going forward, the group will meet every
other month at various locations in the Cleveland area.  If you would like
to join or if there are any questions about POINT or the meetings, please
contact Tom Cirincione at tomcir at yahoo.com.
All the best. - Tony Rini







From mygirl at ctc.net  Thu Jul 31 16:50:43 2008
From: mygirl at ctc.net (Rosalie Amison)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:50:43 -0400
Subject: [TI] New Cleveland Point Chapter
In-Reply-To: <HFEPJPCDICNOJCBEAKOJMEBACPAA.arini@core.com>
References: <HFEPJPCDICNOJCBEAKOJMEBACPAA.arini@core.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c8f314$6d902d80$48b08880$@net>

Tony,
My son went to St Joe's when the Golic brothers were there.  My son played
football for a while at St Joe's then we moved and had to change schools.
One of the worst moves we did for the son.  He loved St Joe's.
Rosalie Amison

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Tony Rini
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:33 PM
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Cc: Tom Cirincione
Subject: [TI] New Cleveland Point Chapter

Hello Cleveland area Termini members,
At a Villa Angela St Joseph Football Kick-off Banquet and Raffle last
Saturday, for my son's  VASJ Viking football team, I ran into a gentlemen
named Phil Rini.  Phil graduated from the original Cleveland St Joseph High
School in 1978 and I was a freshmen there in 1979.  For years I heard of
Phil because he was a very successful state-placing wrestler and football
player at St Joes.  Phil is also a well known stock broker in Cleveland at
Fifth Third Investments in downtown Cleveland, the same as my father who is
also a stock broker.  I was always asked teachers, coaches, and alumni if I
was related to Phil. I usually told them I probably was but did not know
how. We exchanged information last week at the event and in e-mails and as
it turns out, my grandfather and his great grandfather were brothers!! It
goes to show you that you never know where or when you will turn up a
cousin.

As it turns out, Phil's friend, fellow stock broker, and fellow Sicilian,
Tom Cirincione, has started up a Cleveland Chapter of POINT (Pursuing Our
Italian Names Together).  Tom and I have been exchanging e-mails about
Sicily, family trees, and the new Point chapter.  The Cleveland Chapter of
Point has 25 members and is welcoming more.  I offered to post invite the
Cleveland area members of our Termini Imerese group to the next meeting. Tom
was excited to get the word out to our group and would love to have
Cleveland area Termini Imerese members join POINT.

So everyone is invited to join POINT and to attend the next meeting.  The
next meeting is Saturday August 23rd at Fairview Park library from
10AM-12PM. The genealogy librarian will give us an overview of the genealogy
collection there after we conclude our agenda. As Tom explained, obviously
the group is all about sharing ideas. He is excited to have members of the
Termini Group because he thinks that some of the things you have done are
tremendous and the Cleveland Point group would love to hear what you have
done for your trees and families.  Going forward, the group will meet every
other month at various locations in the Cleveland area.  If you would like
to join or if there are any questions about POINT or the meetings, please
contact Tom Cirincione at tomcir at yahoo.com.
All the best. - Tony Rini





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From arini at core.com  Thu Jul 31 20:26:47 2008
From: arini at core.com (Tony Rini)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:26:47 -0400
Subject: [TI] New Cleveland Point Chapter
In-Reply-To: <001e01c8f314$6d902d80$48b08880$@net>
Message-ID: <HFEPJPCDICNOJCBEAKOJKEBDCPAA.arini@core.com>

Hi Rosalie,
St Joes, and the current VASJ where my 3 boys go is a great school.  The
Football Gala and Raffle last Saturday was attended by some of your son's
coaches, Bill Gutbrod (head coach 1950 to 1990), John Storey (current
defensive coordinator), Nick Restifo, Mike Moran, and current teacher Tim
Robertson and Ken Prince, are all names he would recognize. Make sure you
tell your son that "once a Viking always a Viking", so he will always be
part of the school. 2 a day practices started today so tell your son to stop
by when he gets a chance.

What year did your son graduate? Your son probably played with Bob and Greg
Golic in the mid to late 70's. I played with the youngest brother, Mike
Golic SJ 81', of Mike & Mike in the Morning on ESPN radio.  - Tony Rini

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org]On Behalf Of Rosalie
Amison
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:51 AM
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Subject: Re: [TI] New Cleveland Point Chapter


Tony,
My son went to St Joe's when the Golic brothers were there.  My son played
football for a while at St Joe's then we moved and had to change schools.
One of the worst moves we did for the son.  He loved St Joe's.
Rosalie Amison

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Tony Rini
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:33 PM
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Cc: Tom Cirincione
Subject: [TI] New Cleveland Point Chapter

Hello Cleveland area Termini members,
At a Villa Angela St Joseph Football Kick-off Banquet and Raffle last
Saturday, for my son's  VASJ Viking football team, I ran into a gentlemen
named Phil Rini.  Phil graduated from the original Cleveland St Joseph High
School in 1978 and I was a freshmen there in 1979.  For years I heard of
Phil because he was a very successful state-placing wrestler and football
player at St Joes.  Phil is also a well known stock broker in Cleveland at
Fifth Third Investments in downtown Cleveland, the same as my father who is
also a stock broker.  I was always asked teachers, coaches, and alumni if I
was related to Phil. I usually told them I probably was but did not know
how. We exchanged information last week at the event and in e-mails and as
it turns out, my grandfather and his great grandfather were brothers!! It
goes to show you that you never know where or when you will turn up a
cousin.

As it turns out, Phil's friend, fellow stock broker, and fellow Sicilian,
Tom Cirincione, has started up a Cleveland Chapter of POINT (Pursuing Our
Italian Names Together).  Tom and I have been exchanging e-mails about
Sicily, family trees, and the new Point chapter.  The Cleveland Chapter of
Point has 25 members and is welcoming more.  I offered to post invite the
Cleveland area members of our Termini Imerese group to the next meeting. Tom
was excited to get the word out to our group and would love to have
Cleveland area Termini Imerese members join POINT.

So everyone is invited to join POINT and to attend the next meeting.  The
next meeting is Saturday August 23rd at Fairview Park library from
10AM-12PM. The genealogy librarian will give us an overview of the genealogy
collection there after we conclude our agenda. As Tom explained, obviously
the group is all about sharing ideas. He is excited to have members of the
Termini Group because he thinks that some of the things you have done are
tremendous and the Cleveland Point group would love to hear what you have
done for your trees and families.  Going forward, the group will meet every
other month at various locations in the Cleveland area.  If you would like
to join or if there are any questions about POINT or the meetings, please
contact Tom Cirincione at tomcir at yahoo.com.
All the best. - Tony Rini





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From mygirl at ctc.net  Thu Jul 31 22:16:22 2008
From: mygirl at ctc.net (Rosalie Amison)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:16:22 -0400
Subject: [TI] New Cleveland Point Chapter
In-Reply-To: <HFEPJPCDICNOJCBEAKOJKEBDCPAA.arini@core.com>
References: <001e01c8f314$6d902d80$48b08880$@net>
	<HFEPJPCDICNOJCBEAKOJKEBDCPAA.arini@core.com>
Message-ID: <006c01c8f341$ec0a7030$c41f5090$@net>

Tony we had moved to Rhode Island for two years.  Next move was to Lantana,
Fl for 24 years and now in North Caroling for 4 years.  Will have to relay
this message to him when he comes over Friday or calls tonight.  Frank has
followed us around the U.S.  Oh yes when we lived in Ohio Frank joined the
service and served in Germany when we had that crisis with Iran in the 70's.
Frank ended up at I believe Max Hayes and quiet in just before the end of
the 12th grade.  When he went into the service he finished his schooling and
graduate there.  I would have to look up the year he graduate.
Rosalie 

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Tony Rini
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:27 PM
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Subject: Re: [TI] New Cleveland Point Chapter

Hi Rosalie,
St Joes, and the current VASJ where my 3 boys go is a great school.  The
Football Gala and Raffle last Saturday was attended by some of your son's
coaches, Bill Gutbrod (head coach 1950 to 1990), John Storey (current
defensive coordinator), Nick Restifo, Mike Moran, and current teacher Tim
Robertson and Ken Prince, are all names he would recognize. Make sure you
tell your son that "once a Viking always a Viking", so he will always be
part of the school. 2 a day practices started today so tell your son to stop
by when he gets a chance.

What year did your son graduate? Your son probably played with Bob and Greg
Golic in the mid to late 70's. I played with the youngest brother, Mike
Golic SJ 81', of Mike & Mike in the Morning on ESPN radio.  - Tony Rini

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org]On Behalf Of Rosalie
Amison
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:51 AM
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Subject: Re: [TI] New Cleveland Point Chapter


Tony,
My son went to St Joe's when the Golic brothers were there.  My son played
football for a while at St Joe's then we moved and had to change schools.
One of the worst moves we did for the son.  He loved St Joe's.
Rosalie Amison

-----Original Message-----
From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
[mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Tony Rini
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:33 PM
To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
Cc: Tom Cirincione
Subject: [TI] New Cleveland Point Chapter

Hello Cleveland area Termini members,
At a Villa Angela St Joseph Football Kick-off Banquet and Raffle last
Saturday, for my son's  VASJ Viking football team, I ran into a gentlemen
named Phil Rini.  Phil graduated from the original Cleveland St Joseph High
School in 1978 and I was a freshmen there in 1979.  For years I heard of
Phil because he was a very successful state-placing wrestler and football
player at St Joes.  Phil is also a well known stock broker in Cleveland at
Fifth Third Investments in downtown Cleveland, the same as my father who is
also a stock broker.  I was always asked teachers, coaches, and alumni if I
was related to Phil. I usually told them I probably was but did not know
how. We exchanged information last week at the event and in e-mails and as
it turns out, my grandfather and his great grandfather were brothers!! It
goes to show you that you never know where or when you will turn up a
cousin.

As it turns out, Phil's friend, fellow stock broker, and fellow Sicilian,
Tom Cirincione, has started up a Cleveland Chapter of POINT (Pursuing Our
Italian Names Together).  Tom and I have been exchanging e-mails about
Sicily, family trees, and the new Point chapter.  The Cleveland Chapter of
Point has 25 members and is welcoming more.  I offered to post invite the
Cleveland area members of our Termini Imerese group to the next meeting. Tom
was excited to get the word out to our group and would love to have
Cleveland area Termini Imerese members join POINT.

So everyone is invited to join POINT and to attend the next meeting.  The
next meeting is Saturday August 23rd at Fairview Park library from
10AM-12PM. The genealogy librarian will give us an overview of the genealogy
collection there after we conclude our agenda. As Tom explained, obviously
the group is all about sharing ideas. He is excited to have members of the
Termini Group because he thinks that some of the things you have done are
tremendous and the Cleveland Point group would love to hear what you have
done for your trees and families.  Going forward, the group will meet every
other month at various locations in the Cleveland area.  If you would like
to join or if there are any questions about POINT or the meetings, please
contact Tom Cirincione at tomcir at yahoo.com.
All the best. - Tony Rini





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From gotto at ameritech.net  Thu Jul 31 23:06:07 2008
From: gotto at ameritech.net (Gloria Otto)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:06:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TI] Cleveland
Message-ID: <25745.61909.qm@web81803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm thinking about the Reunion and getting excited about seeing everyone ag=
ain. =0AIf you live in Cleveland or know about Cleveland can you tell us wh=
ere the FHC is.=A0Their hours and days of operation. Do they have TI films =
on long term loan ? Is it near the hotel for the Reunion? etc ?=A0 And how =
safe is the neighborhood in Little Italy?=A0 Anything more would be greatly=
 appreciated. =0AThanks.=0A=A0Gloria