[TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]

nell lamantia nellie at woh.rr.com
Sun Jul 20 02:13:54 EEST 2008


Salvatore = Sam,
 Ignazio = John
Guiseppa= Josephine
in the Lamantia Family
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "anniegoe" <anniegoe at access995.com>
To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]


> Mike, before Unification the name was Salvadore, after Salvatore.
> Those names are popular in Sicily.  My Grandfather was Salvatore. There 
> were
> also cousins by that name. Also Santo!   They were all called Sam in
> America.
> Ann
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Maddi" <m.maddi at att.net>
> To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [TI] [Fwd: Salvatore=Sam?]
>
>
>> Sharon,
>>
>> It doesn't answer my question, but it was an interesting story.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
>>>
>> Mike, Uncle Willie (Salvatore) was actually born in Omaha, Nebraska in
>> 1895.
>> The Pitti family moved there from St. Louis around the time just before
>> the
>> great St. Louis cyclone, but then returned thereafter when my when 
>> grandma
>> and
>>> her twin were born in St. Louis in 1897.
>>>
>> The Pitti family originated in Florence, but after getting "escorted" out
>> of
>> town with the Medici, they took their money and headed south to Sicily
>> where
>> their money would go much farther because everything was so much cheaper,
>> like
>> the real estate, etc.  They ended up in the Palermo region and then to
>> Porticello/Termini/Cefalo/Campfelice de Rocella/Belmonte Mezzagno.  They
>> brought
>>> with them their education and music (many violinists in the family).
>>>
>> When coming to America, most about 1888-1910, they considered themselves
>> Sicilian.  Although, I know of one small branch who refuse to believe 
>> that
>> the
>> family went to Sicily...they think that there was just a misunderstanding
>> with
>>> the people of Florence and the aristocrats. Being a Sicilian is a 
>>> "dirty"
>>> word
>>> to them.  So sad. They don't know what they are missing.  i have shared
>>> my
>>> documentation with them, but they still refuse to believe.
>>>
>>> So, I guess they had to go through Calabria to get to Palermo in the
>>> 1600s, if
>>> you look at it that way.  Does that answer your question?  Probably not.
>>> Oh,
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Sharon
>>>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>> From: "Mike Maddi" <m.maddi at att.net>
>>> > By any chance, was your Uncle Salvatore, who called himself Sam, from
>>> > southern
>>> > Italy, not Sicily.
>>> >
>>> > I'm trying to establish for someone with Calabrian ancestry, whether a
>>> Calabrian
>>> > birth record is that of his grandfather. The date of birth and surname
>>> > match
>>> his
>>> > grandfather, but the given name is Salvatore and he only knows his
>>> > grandfather
>>> > as "Sam."
>>> >
>>> > Mike
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>> > From: sreif1956 at comcast.net
>>> > >
>>> > Mike, all of my family Salvatore's called themselves William or 
>>> > Willie.
>>> > The
>>> > father of my uncle  (related only by marriage) called himself Sam
>>> > instead of
>>> > > Salvatore.
>>> > >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>> > > From: Laura <laura at termini-imerese.org>
>>> > > > FORWARDED MESSAGE - ORIGINAL IN HTML FORMAT
>>> > > >
>>> > > > -------- Original Message --------
>>> > > > Subject: Salvatore=Sam?
>>> > > > Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:32:54 +0000
>>> > > > From: Mike Maddi <m.maddi at att.net>
>>> > > > To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Have people found that ancestors who were named Salvatore
>>> > > > Americanized
>>> > > > their name to "Sam" when they came to the U.S.? If not, what was
>>> > > > the
>>> > > > original Italian given name of ancestors who were called Sam?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Mike Maddi
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
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