From rngade57 at madisontelco.com Mon Oct 2 04:46:25 2017 From: rngade57 at madisontelco.com (Laura Johnson) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 20:46:25 -0500 Subject: [TI] 2017 Buffalo Reunion Message-ID: <49095cd0-1a61-eb51-b4c3-8d93a4bb5ff5@madisontelco.com> I want to say thank you to Tom Corso and Ann Catalano for organizing our reunion in Buffalo.? It was a wonderful weekend. The restaurant choices were excellent. Thursday night we went to Como's in Niagara Falls NY.? There were 12 of us for dinner.? Afterward, we sat in the breakfast area at the hotel and talked. Friday, Tom, Lynn and I went to the Buffalo library were we were able to get a few things researched.? Others in the group went other places.? Friday night we went to the Anchor Bar where the original Buffalo wings were created.?? There were 20 of us for dinner and then we went back to the hotel and talked in the breakfast area for awhile. Saturday we held our annual meeting /research/compare our charts day and a few new connections were made among those who were present.? Many new faces at the reunion.? Ray and Tony took a side trip to the Jello Museum in Leroy NY and learned all about the history of Jello. Saturday evening we went to Chef's for dinner.? The food was excellent and we all wore our Chef's bibs at dinner.? Later we returned to the hotel to spend more time chatting at the hotel. This morning at breakfast, it was a bit nostalgic with everyone wanting to keep in touch with each other and all of us not quite ready to leave.? It is always great seeing the familiar faces and meeting new ones each year. From amborocco at usa.net Mon Oct 2 04:48:34 2017 From: amborocco at usa.net (JAL) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2017 01:48:34 -0000 Subject: [TI] 2017 Buffalo Reunion Message-ID: <095VJBBWI9459T12.1506908914@nm12.cms.usa.net> Out of office with limited access to email until October 5. Jim From rngade57 at madisontelco.com Mon Oct 2 04:49:07 2017 From: rngade57 at madisontelco.com (Laura Johnson) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 20:49:07 -0500 Subject: [TI] Future Reunions Message-ID: <364de8a8-bd92-aa9d-7640-e98079d880cd@madisontelco.com> 2018 - Chicago, IL (Scott Mascari is the host) 2019 - Ft. Worth, TX (Anita Arrigo Romrell and her husband will be our hosts) 2020 - TERMINI IMERESE.? We are going to move it up a year because many people don't want to wait too long to go back From anncat1029 at roadrunner.com Mon Oct 2 19:12:27 2017 From: anncat1029 at roadrunner.com (Ann) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 12:12:27 -0400 Subject: [TI] Future Reunions In-Reply-To: <364de8a8-bd92-aa9d-7640-e98079d880cd@madisontelco.com> References: <364de8a8-bd92-aa9d-7640-e98079d880cd@madisontelco.com> Message-ID: <5ED52E03-65AB-4FA5-A841-310DFC0EEF50@roadrunner.com> Thanks to everyone who attended. I hope it was a good experience for everyone. It?s always fun to see everyone and make new friends. I am sitting on a plane ready to depart Buffalo for 3 weeks in Italy. See you next year in Chicago. Ann Catalano North Tonawanda, NY Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 1, 2017, at 9:49 PM, Laura Johnson wrote: > > 2018 - Chicago, IL (Scott Mascari is the host) > > 2019 - Ft. Worth, TX (Anita Arrigo Romrell and her husband will be our hosts) > > 2020 - TERMINI IMERESE. We are going to move it up a year because many people don't want to wait too long to go back > > > _______________________________________________ > TerminiImerese mailing list > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org From tcorso at lecom.edu Tue Oct 3 00:13:18 2017 From: tcorso at lecom.edu (Thomas Corso, PhD) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 21:13:18 +0000 Subject: [TI] Future Reunions In-Reply-To: <5ED52E03-65AB-4FA5-A841-310DFC0EEF50@roadrunner.com> References: <364de8a8-bd92-aa9d-7640-e98079d880cd@madisontelco.com> <5ED52E03-65AB-4FA5-A841-310DFC0EEF50@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <47E7B1EBF603234EA15FB1851093ECDF2130BD14@MAILSERVER01.lecomintra.net> Ann, have a great time. I owe you a great amount of thanks for helping and pushing things along, especially when I got really busy with work. -----Original Message----- From: TerminiImerese [mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Ann Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 12:12 PM To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org Subject: Re: [TI] Future Reunions Thanks to everyone who attended. I hope it was a good experience for everyone. It?s always fun to see everyone and make new friends. I am sitting on a plane ready to depart Buffalo for 3 weeks in Italy. See you next year in Chicago. Ann Catalano North Tonawanda, NY Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 1, 2017, at 9:49 PM, Laura Johnson wrote: > > 2018 - Chicago, IL (Scott Mascari is the host) > > 2019 - Ft. Worth, TX (Anita Arrigo Romrell and her husband will be our hosts) > > 2020 - TERMINI IMERESE. We are going to move it up a year because many people don't want to wait too long to go back > > > _______________________________________________ > TerminiImerese mailing list > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org _______________________________________________ TerminiImerese mailing list TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org From rngade57 at madisontelco.com Sat Oct 7 23:26:15 2017 From: rngade57 at madisontelco.com (Laura Johnson) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2017 15:26:15 -0500 Subject: [TI] 2017 Reunion Pictures are online Message-ID: The pictures from the 2017 Buffalo reunion are online http://www.termini-imerese.org/Reunion/2017Buffalo/Buffalo.htm From camrose123 at comcast.net Sun Oct 8 21:51:08 2017 From: camrose123 at comcast.net (ROSE CAMPISE) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 14:51:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TI] TerminiImerese Digest, Vol 129, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2078994124.209705.1507488669803@connect.xfinity.com> I wish I could have been with you. As a caregiver I am unable to get away overnight. Rose > On October 2, 2017 at 2:00 PM terminiimerese-request at comunesofitaly.org wrote: > > > Send TerminiImerese mailing list submissions to > terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > terminiimerese-request at comunesofitaly.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > terminiimerese-owner at comunesofitaly.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of TerminiImerese digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 2017 Buffalo Reunion (Laura Johnson) > 2. Re: 2017 Buffalo Reunion (JAL) > 3. Future Reunions (Laura Johnson) > 4. Re: Future Reunions (Ann) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 20:46:25 -0500 > From: Laura Johnson > To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org > Subject: [TI] 2017 Buffalo Reunion > Message-ID: <49095cd0-1a61-eb51-b4c3-8d93a4bb5ff5 at madisontelco.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I want to say thank you to Tom Corso and Ann Catalano for organizing our > reunion in Buffalo.? It was a wonderful weekend. The restaurant choices > were excellent. > > Thursday night we went to Como's in Niagara Falls NY.? There were 12 of > us for dinner.? Afterward, we sat in the breakfast area at the hotel and > talked. > > Friday, Tom, Lynn and I went to the Buffalo library were we were able to > get a few things researched.? Others in the group went other places.? > Friday night we went to the Anchor Bar where the original Buffalo wings > were created.?? There were 20 of us for dinner and then we went back to > the hotel and talked in the breakfast area for awhile. > > Saturday we held our annual meeting /research/compare our charts day and > a few new connections were made among those who were present.? Many new > faces at the reunion.? Ray and Tony took a side trip to the Jello Museum > in Leroy NY and learned all about the history of Jello. > > Saturday evening we went to Chef's for dinner.? The food was excellent > and we all wore our Chef's bibs at dinner.? Later we returned to the > hotel to spend more time chatting at the hotel. > > This morning at breakfast, it was a bit nostalgic with everyone wanting > to keep in touch with each other and all of us not quite ready to > leave.? It is always great seeing the familiar faces and meeting new > ones each year. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2017 01:48:34 -0000 > From: "JAL" > To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org > Subject: Re: [TI] 2017 Buffalo Reunion > Message-ID: <095VJBBWI9459T12.1506908914 at nm12.cms.usa.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Out of office with limited access to email until October 5. > > Jim > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 20:49:07 -0500 > From: Laura Johnson > To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org > Subject: [TI] Future Reunions > Message-ID: <364de8a8-bd92-aa9d-7640-e98079d880cd at madisontelco.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > 2018 - Chicago, IL (Scott Mascari is the host) > > 2019 - Ft. Worth, TX (Anita Arrigo Romrell and her husband will be our > hosts) > > 2020 - TERMINI IMERESE.? We are going to move it up a year because many > people don't want to wait too long to go back > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 12:12:27 -0400 > From: Ann > To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org > Subject: Re: [TI] Future Reunions > Message-ID: <5ED52E03-65AB-4FA5-A841-310DFC0EEF50 at roadrunner.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Thanks to everyone who attended. I hope it was a good experience for everyone. It?s always fun to see everyone and make new friends. > > I am sitting on a plane ready to depart Buffalo for 3 weeks in Italy. > > See you next year in Chicago. > > Ann Catalano > North Tonawanda, NY > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 1, 2017, at 9:49 PM, Laura Johnson wrote: > > > > 2018 - Chicago, IL (Scott Mascari is the host) > > > > 2019 - Ft. Worth, TX (Anita Arrigo Romrell and her husband will be our hosts) > > > > 2020 - TERMINI IMERESE. We are going to move it up a year because many people don't want to wait too long to go back > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TerminiImerese mailing list > > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org > > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > TerminiImerese mailing list > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of TerminiImerese Digest, Vol 129, Issue 1 > ********************************************** From rngade57 at madisontelco.com Mon Oct 9 05:17:32 2017 From: rngade57 at madisontelco.com (Laura Johnson) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 21:17:32 -0500 Subject: [TI] Fwd: Reunion 2018 Chicago In-Reply-To: <1301818833.3937960.1507515329323@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1301818833.3937960.1507515329323@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8da50ca5-bde8-12f9-5202-af1722589b49@madisontelco.com> PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE AND RESPOND TO IT. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Reunion 2018 Chicago Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:15:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Scott Mascheri Reply-To: smas1973 at yahoo.com To: rngade57 at madisontelco.com ***" Please Read need a email back your thoughs? ***** As I have been telling everybody that talks to me about the reunion in Chicago and about Termini Imerese. I have said I have big plans. Last night I sat down with a official from Termini Imerese. There are a few in Chicago for the Columbus parade. They will be participating in the parade with the sister city of Elk Grove Village. With big things to come. With that being said for the 2018 reunion I am thinking to have it the Thursday's to Saturday the 4 the to the 6th of October. the weekend of Columbus Day on the 8th.? The reason for that is the Mayor of Termini Imerese and Many other officials will be in Chicago for the Parade. With meeting last night they would like to be part of our reunion. I have another meeting with the president of the organization for the sister city Elk Grove Village. Mr. Gullo. To have them part of our reunion next year. They have 2 floats that are in the Parade that who ever wants to stay until Monday for the parade can participate. I am going to be in Termini Imerese the 19 to the 22 of this month. I did have a meeting put together about things to help us on researching and other things. But after last night I will be having another meeting with more officials in TI to work with then hand in hand in different things. Big things and projects in the works. I am working hard to open many doors for us in TI with Researching Visiting and so much more. So please comment below to give me your opinion on changing the date from September to October. The date change is for a big step for our group. Thank you Scott. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From rngade57 at madisontelco.com Mon Oct 9 05:19:17 2017 From: rngade57 at madisontelco.com (Laura Johnson) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 21:19:17 -0500 Subject: [TI] Fwd: Reunion 2018 Chicago In-Reply-To: <8da50ca5-bde8-12f9-5202-af1722589b49@madisontelco.com> References: <1301818833.3937960.1507515329323@mail.yahoo.com> <8da50ca5-bde8-12f9-5202-af1722589b49@madisontelco.com> Message-ID: <20c0b154-a017-d011-97b2-a7483af78b2d@madisontelco.com> As I said to Scott last night when we spoke on the phone, I normally would not change the time period for the reunion because people know to expect it to be that last weekend in September. But I believe that changing it to this the time around the Columbus Day weekend and the TI delegation being in Elk Grove Village in 2018 would be to our benefit. Hopefully, if we can work with them as well as them working with us, we might be able to get into the church records and further our research of our Termantani ancestry. I have given Scott the go-ahead to plan our reunion around the Columbus Day weekend to give us this opportunity and I hope that this will work well for our group. We will still hold our annual Saturday get-together like usual and the TI delegation will be with us as well. Those who can stay over till Monday can help also participate in the Columbus Day activities as well. I am personally looking forward to this very much and think we have been given a great opportunity. On 10/8/2017 9:17 PM, Laura Johnson wrote: > PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE AND RESPOND TO IT. > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject:???? Reunion 2018 Chicago > Date:???? Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:15:29 +0000 (UTC) > From:???? Scott Mascheri > Reply-To:???? smas1973 at yahoo.com > To:???? rngade57 at madisontelco.com > > > > ***" Please Read need a email back your thoughs? ***** > > As I have been telling everybody that talks to me about the reunion in > Chicago and about Termini Imerese. I have said I have big plans. > > Last night I sat down with a official from Termini Imerese. There are > a few in Chicago for the Columbus parade. They will be participating > in the parade with the sister city of Elk Grove Village. With big > things to come. > > With that being said for the 2018 reunion I am thinking to have it the > Thursday's to Saturday the 4 the to the 6th of October. the weekend of > Columbus Day on the 8th.? The reason for that is the Mayor of Termini > Imerese and Many other officials will be in Chicago for the Parade. > With meeting last night they would like to be part of our reunion. I > have another meeting with the president of the organization for the > sister city Elk Grove Village. Mr. Gullo. To have them part of our > reunion next year. They have 2 floats that are in the Parade that who > ever wants to stay until Monday for the parade can participate. > > I am going to be in Termini Imerese the 19 to the 22 of this month. I > did have a meeting put together about things to help us on researching > and other things. But after last night I will be having another > meeting with more officials in TI to work with then hand in hand in > different things. Big things and projects in the works. > > I am working hard to open many doors for us in TI with Researching > Visiting and so much more. > > So please comment below to give me your opinion on changing the date > from September to October. The date change is for a big step for our > group. > > Thank you Scott. > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > > _______________________________________________ > TerminiImerese mailing list > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org > From sreif1956 at comcast.net Mon Oct 9 05:41:22 2017 From: sreif1956 at comcast.net (Sharon R. Reif) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 19:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TI] Fwd: Reunion 2018 Chicago In-Reply-To: <8da50ca5-bde8-12f9-5202-af1722589b49@madisontelco.com> References: <1301818833.3937960.1507515329323@mail.yahoo.com> <8da50ca5-bde8-12f9-5202-af1722589b49@madisontelco.com> Message-ID: <1488814860.184447.1507516882984@connect.xfinity.com> I read your notice. I really don't plan that far ahead, although I should. So, that being said, I can work around anything, unless there is a conference where I need to have a vendor table. Sharon Reif AncestorStuff.com www.ancestorstuff.com info at ancestorstuff.com > On October 8, 2017 at 7:17 PM Laura Johnson wrote: > > > PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE AND RESPOND TO IT. > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Reunion 2018 Chicago > Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:15:29 +0000 (UTC) > From: Scott Mascheri > Reply-To: smas1973 at yahoo.com > To: rngade57 at madisontelco.com > > > > ***" Please Read need a email back your thoughs ***** > > As I have been telling everybody that talks to me about the reunion in > Chicago and about Termini Imerese. I have said I have big plans. > > Last night I sat down with a official from Termini Imerese. There are a > few in Chicago for the Columbus parade. They will be participating in > the parade with the sister city of Elk Grove Village. With big things to > come. > > With that being said for the 2018 reunion I am thinking to have it the > Thursday's to Saturday the 4 the to the 6th of October. the weekend of > Columbus Day on the 8th. The reason for that is the Mayor of Termini > Imerese and Many other officials will be in Chicago for the Parade. With > meeting last night they would like to be part of our reunion. I have > another meeting with the president of the organization for the sister > city Elk Grove Village. Mr. Gullo. To have them part of our reunion next > year. They have 2 floats that are in the Parade that who ever wants to > stay until Monday for the parade can participate. > > I am going to be in Termini Imerese the 19 to the 22 of this month. I > did have a meeting put together about things to help us on researching > and other things. But after last night I will be having another meeting > with more officials in TI to work with then hand in hand in different > things. Big things and projects in the works. > > I am working hard to open many doors for us in TI with Researching > Visiting and so much more. > > So please comment below to give me your opinion on changing the date > from September to October. The date change is for a big step for our group. > > Thank you Scott. > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > > _______________________________________________ > TerminiImerese mailing list > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org From comella.f3104 at comcast.net Mon Oct 9 05:57:01 2017 From: comella.f3104 at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 21:57:01 -0500 Subject: [TI] Reunion 2018 Chicago In-Reply-To: <8da50ca5-bde8-12f9-5202-af1722589b49@madisontelco.com> References: <1301818833.3937960.1507515329323@mail.yahoo.com> <8da50ca5-bde8-12f9-5202-af1722589b49@madisontelco.com> Message-ID: Changing the dates as suggested would seem to be a benefit to everyone. > On Oct 8, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Laura Johnson wrote: > > PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE AND RESPOND TO IT. > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Reunion 2018 Chicago > Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:15:29 +0000 (UTC) > From: Scott Mascheri > Reply-To: smas1973 at yahoo.com > To: rngade57 at madisontelco.com > > > > ***" Please Read need a email back your thoughs ***** > > As I have been telling everybody that talks to me about the reunion in Chicago and about Termini Imerese. I have said I have big plans. > > Last night I sat down with a official from Termini Imerese. There are a few in Chicago for the Columbus parade. They will be participating in the parade with the sister city of Elk Grove Village. With big things to come. > > With that being said for the 2018 reunion I am thinking to have it the Thursday's to Saturday the 4 the to the 6th of October. the weekend of Columbus Day on the 8th. The reason for that is the Mayor of Termini Imerese and Many other officials will be in Chicago for the Parade. With meeting last night they would like to be part of our reunion. I have another meeting with the president of the organization for the sister city Elk Grove Village. Mr. Gullo. To have them part of our reunion next year. They have 2 floats that are in the Parade that who ever wants to stay until Monday for the parade can participate. > > I am going to be in Termini Imerese the 19 to the 22 of this month. I did have a meeting put together about things to help us on researching and other things. But after last night I will be having another meeting with more officials in TI to work with then hand in hand in different things. Big things and projects in the works. > > I am working hard to open many doors for us in TI with Researching Visiting and so much more. > > So please comment below to give me your opinion on changing the date from September to October. The date change is for a big step for our group. > > Thank you Scott. > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > _______________________________________________ > TerminiImerese mailing list > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org From rvince at aol.com Mon Oct 9 06:07:30 2017 From: rvince at aol.com (Vince Howard) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 23:07:30 -0400 Subject: [TI] Fwd: Reunion 2018 Chicago In-Reply-To: <1488814860.184447.1507516882984@connect.xfinity.com> References: <1301818833.3937960.1507515329323@mail.yahoo.com> <8da50ca5-bde8-12f9-5202-af1722589b49@madisontelco.com> <1488814860.184447.1507516882984@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <12A12218-8892-442A-9DED-D87A98927FAB@aol.com> I like the change to Columbus Day for the 2018 reunion ! Vince Howard 706.612.5253 > On Oct 8, 2017, at 10:41 PM, Sharon R. Reif wrote: > > I read your notice. > I really don't plan that far ahead, although I should. So, that being said, I can work around anything, unless there is a conference where I need to have a vendor table. > > Sharon Reif > > AncestorStuff.com > > > > > www.ancestorstuff.com > > info at ancestorstuff.com > > >> On October 8, 2017 at 7:17 PM Laura Johnson wrote: >> >> >> PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE AND RESPOND TO IT. >> >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: Reunion 2018 Chicago >> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:15:29 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Scott Mascheri >> Reply-To: smas1973 at yahoo.com >> To: rngade57 at madisontelco.com >> >> >> >> ***" Please Read need a email back your thoughs ***** >> >> As I have been telling everybody that talks to me about the reunion in >> Chicago and about Termini Imerese. I have said I have big plans. >> >> Last night I sat down with a official from Termini Imerese. There are a >> few in Chicago for the Columbus parade. They will be participating in >> the parade with the sister city of Elk Grove Village. With big things to >> come. >> >> With that being said for the 2018 reunion I am thinking to have it the >> Thursday's to Saturday the 4 the to the 6th of October. the weekend of >> Columbus Day on the 8th. The reason for that is the Mayor of Termini >> Imerese and Many other officials will be in Chicago for the Parade. With >> meeting last night they would like to be part of our reunion. I have >> another meeting with the president of the organization for the sister >> city Elk Grove Village. Mr. Gullo. To have them part of our reunion next >> year. They have 2 floats that are in the Parade that who ever wants to >> stay until Monday for the parade can participate. >> >> I am going to be in Termini Imerese the 19 to the 22 of this month. I >> did have a meeting put together about things to help us on researching >> and other things. But after last night I will be having another meeting >> with more officials in TI to work with then hand in hand in different >> things. Big things and projects in the works. >> >> I am working hard to open many doors for us in TI with Researching >> Visiting and so much more. >> >> So please comment below to give me your opinion on changing the date >> from September to October. The date change is for a big step for our group. >> >> Thank you Scott. >> >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TerminiImerese mailing list >> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org >> http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org > > _______________________________________________ > TerminiImerese mailing list > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org From fannerino at comcast.net Mon Oct 9 06:56:28 2017 From: fannerino at comcast.net (Frank Annerino) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 22:56:28 -0500 Subject: [TI] Fwd: Reunion 2018 Chicago In-Reply-To: <8da50ca5-bde8-12f9-5202-af1722589b49@madisontelco.com> References: <1301818833.3937960.1507515329323@mail.yahoo.com> <8da50ca5-bde8-12f9-5202-af1722589b49@madisontelco.com> Message-ID: <020a01d340b2$96313540$c2939fc0$@net> Scott, I live in the greater Chicagland are and am interested in this reunion. Frank Annerino -----Original Message----- From: TerminiImerese [mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Laura Johnson Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2017 9:18 PM To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org Subject: [TI] Fwd: Reunion 2018 Chicago PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE AND RESPOND TO IT. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Reunion 2018 Chicago Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:15:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Scott Mascheri Reply-To: smas1973 at yahoo.com To: rngade57 at madisontelco.com ***" Please Read need a email back your thoughs ***** As I have been telling everybody that talks to me about the reunion in Chicago and about Termini Imerese. I have said I have big plans. Last night I sat down with a official from Termini Imerese. There are a few in Chicago for the Columbus parade. They will be participating in the parade with the sister city of Elk Grove Village. With big things to come. With that being said for the 2018 reunion I am thinking to have it the Thursday's to Saturday the 4 the to the 6th of October. the weekend of Columbus Day on the 8th. The reason for that is the Mayor of Termini Imerese and Many other officials will be in Chicago for the Parade. With meeting last night they would like to be part of our reunion. I have another meeting with the president of the organization for the sister city Elk Grove Village. Mr. Gullo. To have them part of our reunion next year. They have 2 floats that are in the Parade that who ever wants to stay until Monday for the parade can participate. I am going to be in Termini Imerese the 19 to the 22 of this month. I did have a meeting put together about things to help us on researching and other things. But after last night I will be having another meeting with more officials in TI to work with then hand in hand in different things. Big things and projects in the works. I am working hard to open many doors for us in TI with Researching Visiting and so much more. So please comment below to give me your opinion on changing the date from September to October. The date change is for a big step for our group. Thank you Scott. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android _______________________________________________ TerminiImerese mailing list TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com From vonnihondra at yahoo.com Mon Oct 9 14:08:30 2017 From: vonnihondra at yahoo.com (Vonnihondra) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 06:08:30 -0500 Subject: [TI] Fwd: Reunion 2018 Chicago In-Reply-To: <8da50ca5-bde8-12f9-5202-af1722589b49@madisontelco.com> References: <1301818833.3937960.1507515329323@mail.yahoo.com> <8da50ca5-bde8-12f9-5202-af1722589b49@madisontelco.com> Message-ID: That weekend would work for me - Yvonne Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 8, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Laura Johnson wrote: > > PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE AND RESPOND TO IT. > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Reunion 2018 Chicago > Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:15:29 +0000 (UTC) > From: Scott Mascheri > Reply-To: smas1973 at yahoo.com > To: rngade57 at madisontelco.com > > > > ***" Please Read need a email back your thoughs ***** > > As I have been telling everybody that talks to me about the reunion in Chicago and about Termini Imerese. I have said I have big plans. > > Last night I sat down with a official from Termini Imerese. There are a few in Chicago for the Columbus parade. They will be participating in the parade with the sister city of Elk Grove Village. With big things to come. > > With that being said for the 2018 reunion I am thinking to have it the Thursday's to Saturday the 4 the to the 6th of October. the weekend of Columbus Day on the 8th. The reason for that is the Mayor of Termini Imerese and Many other officials will be in Chicago for the Parade. With meeting last night they would like to be part of our reunion. I have another meeting with the president of the organization for the sister city Elk Grove Village. Mr. Gullo. To have them part of our reunion next year. They have 2 floats that are in the Parade that who ever wants to stay until Monday for the parade can participate. > > I am going to be in Termini Imerese the 19 to the 22 of this month. I did have a meeting put together about things to help us on researching and other things. But after last night I will be having another meeting with more officials in TI to work with then hand in hand in different things. Big things and projects in the works. > > I am working hard to open many doors for us in TI with Researching Visiting and so much more. > > So please comment below to give me your opinion on changing the date from September to October. The date change is for a big step for our group. > > Thank you Scott. > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > _______________________________________________ > TerminiImerese mailing list > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org From kimcullinane at yahoo.com Mon Oct 9 14:26:17 2017 From: kimcullinane at yahoo.com (Kim Cullinane) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 06:26:17 -0500 Subject: [TI] Fwd: Reunion 2018 Chicago In-Reply-To: <8da50ca5-bde8-12f9-5202-af1722589b49@madisontelco.com> References: <1301818833.3937960.1507515329323@mail.yahoo.com> <8da50ca5-bde8-12f9-5202-af1722589b49@madisontelco.com> Message-ID: <2D7AA42C-C7BD-4F15-B0F8-733EC04F1A58@yahoo.com> I?m ok with the date change. But I may not stay for the dinner on Saturday night as we have our Columbus Day Parade here in St. Louis on Sunday and it?s a family tradition. Of course I could get up early and drive home ? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 8, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Laura Johnson wrote: > > PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE AND RESPOND TO IT. > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Reunion 2018 Chicago > Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:15:29 +0000 (UTC) > From: Scott Mascheri > Reply-To: smas1973 at yahoo.com > To: rngade57 at madisontelco.com > > > > ***" Please Read need a email back your thoughs ***** > > As I have been telling everybody that talks to me about the reunion in Chicago and about Termini Imerese. I have said I have big plans. > > Last night I sat down with a official from Termini Imerese. There are a few in Chicago for the Columbus parade. They will be participating in the parade with the sister city of Elk Grove Village. With big things to come. > > With that being said for the 2018 reunion I am thinking to have it the Thursday's to Saturday the 4 the to the 6th of October. the weekend of Columbus Day on the 8th. The reason for that is the Mayor of Termini Imerese and Many other officials will be in Chicago for the Parade. With meeting last night they would like to be part of our reunion. I have another meeting with the president of the organization for the sister city Elk Grove Village. Mr. Gullo. To have them part of our reunion next year. They have 2 floats that are in the Parade that who ever wants to stay until Monday for the parade can participate. > > I am going to be in Termini Imerese the 19 to the 22 of this month. I did have a meeting put together about things to help us on researching and other things. But after last night I will be having another meeting with more officials in TI to work with then hand in hand in different things. Big things and projects in the works. > > I am working hard to open many doors for us in TI with Researching Visiting and so much more. > > So please comment below to give me your opinion on changing the date from September to October. The date change is for a big step for our group. > > Thank you Scott. > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > _______________________________________________ > TerminiImerese mailing list > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org From amborocco at usa.net Mon Oct 9 15:15:54 2017 From: amborocco at usa.net (JAL) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2017 08:15:54 -0400 Subject: [TI] Fwd: Reunion 2018 Chicago Message-ID: <796VJimo34288S07.1507551354@web07.cms.usa.net> As one who has never participated in any of the activities of this group, I will definitely plan to attend this. In addition, I will convene our clan for our annual extended Amato/DiGiovanni family reunion in Chicago at that time. I lived in Italy for many years and visited Termini many times, taking family members there. My wife and I have religiously followed all the emails in this thread. It has enabled us to be in contact with other relatives we were unaware of, some of whom live in our area. We will try to lure them to Chicago as well for a grand reunion. Look forward to this event. Jim Larocco Note: My mother's grandmother was a DiGiovanni who packed up her kids and sailed to Boston after her husband died in a storm while fishing off the coast of Termini. Talk about a brave woman! I suspect whatever genes she had are responsible for all the strong women in our extended family who came after her. My father was born in Chicago and our family was raised there. Their five kids resulted in a large number of grandkids and great grandkids still calling Chicago home. Delighted that the reunion is there. ------ Original Message ------ Received: Mon, 09 Oct 2017 07:10:58 AM EDT From: Vonnihondra To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org Subject: Re: [TI] Fwd: Reunion 2018 Chicago That weekend would work for me - Yvonne Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 8, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Laura Johnson wrote: > > PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE AND RESPOND TO IT. > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Reunion 2018 Chicago > Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:15:29 +0000 (UTC) > From: Scott Mascheri > Reply-To: smas1973 at yahoo.com > To: rngade57 at madisontelco.com > > > > ***" Please Read need a email back your thoughs ***** > > As I have been telling everybody that talks to me about the reunion in Chicago and about Termini Imerese. I have said I have big plans. > > Last night I sat down with a official from Termini Imerese. There are a few in Chicago for the Columbus parade. They will be participating in the parade with the sister city of Elk Grove Village. With big things to come. > > With that being said for the 2018 reunion I am thinking to have it the Thursday's to Saturday the 4 the to the 6th of October. the weekend of Columbus Day on the 8th. The reason for that is the Mayor of Termini Imerese and Many other officials will be in Chicago for the Parade. With meeting last night they would like to be part of our reunion. I have another meeting with the president of the organization for the sister city Elk Grove Village. Mr. Gullo. To have them part of our reunion next year. They have 2 floats that are in the Parade that who ever wants to stay until Monday for the parade can participate. > > I am going to be in Termini Imerese the 19 to the 22 of this month. I did have a meeting put together about things to help us on researching and other things. But after last night I will be having another meeting with more officials in TI to work with then hand in hand in different things. Big things and projects in the works. > > I am working hard to open many doors for us in TI with Researching Visiting and so much more. > > So please comment below to give me your opinion on changing the date from September to October. The date change is for a big step for our group. > > Thank you Scott. > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > _______________________________________________ > TerminiImerese mailing list > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org _______________________________________________ TerminiImerese mailing list TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org From ncolby2016 at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 15:30:23 2017 From: ncolby2016 at gmail.com (Nancy Colby) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 07:30:23 -0500 Subject: [TI] Fwd: Reunion 2018 Chicago In-Reply-To: <796VJimo34288S07.1507551354@web07.cms.usa.net> References: <796VJimo34288S07.1507551354@web07.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: <74579BC7-A256-4F93-A0FD-E1D7C946CA0F@gmail.com> Changing the reunion date is fine by me. Thanks for all of your hard work Scott. If you need help planning the reunion let me know. Thanks....Nancy On Oct 9, 2017, at 7:15 AM, JAL wrote: As one who has never participated in any of the activities of this group, I will definitely plan to attend this. In addition, I will convene our clan for our annual extended Amato/DiGiovanni family reunion in Chicago at that time. I lived in Italy for many years and visited Termini many times, taking family members there. My wife and I have religiously followed all the emails in this thread. It has enabled us to be in contact with other relatives we were unaware of, some of whom live in our area. We will try to lure them to Chicago as well for a grand reunion. Look forward to this event. Jim Larocco Note: My mother's grandmother was a DiGiovanni who packed up her kids and sailed to Boston after her husband died in a storm while fishing off the coast of Termini. Talk about a brave woman! I suspect whatever genes she had are responsible for all the strong women in our extended family who came after her. My father was born in Chicago and our family was raised there. Their five kids resulted in a large number of grandkids and great grandkids still calling Chicago home. Delighted that the reunion is there. ------ Original Message ------ Received: Mon, 09 Oct 2017 07:10:58 AM EDT From: Vonnihondra To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org Subject: Re: [TI] Fwd: Reunion 2018 Chicago That weekend would work for me - Yvonne Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 8, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Laura Johnson wrote: > > PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE AND RESPOND TO IT. > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Reunion 2018 Chicago > Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:15:29 +0000 (UTC) > From: Scott Mascheri > Reply-To: smas1973 at yahoo.com > To: rngade57 at madisontelco.com > > > > ***" Please Read need a email back your thoughs ***** > > As I have been telling everybody that talks to me about the reunion in Chicago and about Termini Imerese. I have said I have big plans. > > Last night I sat down with a official from Termini Imerese. There are a few in Chicago for the Columbus parade. They will be participating in the parade with the sister city of Elk Grove Village. With big things to come. > > With that being said for the 2018 reunion I am thinking to have it the Thursday's to Saturday the 4 the to the 6th of October. the weekend of Columbus Day on the 8th. The reason for that is the Mayor of Termini Imerese and Many other officials will be in Chicago for the Parade. With meeting last night they would like to be part of our reunion. I have another meeting with the president of the organization for the sister city Elk Grove Village. Mr. Gullo. To have them part of our reunion next year. They have 2 floats that are in the Parade that who ever wants to stay until Monday for the parade can participate. > > I am going to be in Termini Imerese the 19 to the 22 of this month. I did have a meeting put together about things to help us on researching and other things. But after last night I will be having another meeting with more officials in TI to work with then hand in hand in different things. Big things and projects in the works. > > I am working hard to open many doors for us in TI with Researching Visiting and so much more. > > So please comment below to give me your opinion on changing the date from September to October. The date change is for a big step for our group. > > Thank you Scott. > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > _______________________________________________ > TerminiImerese mailing list > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org _______________________________________________ TerminiImerese mailing list TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org _______________________________________________ TerminiImerese mailing list TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org From katherinas at earthlink.net Thu Oct 12 00:48:51 2017 From: katherinas at earthlink.net (Katherina Smith) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 14:48:51 -0700 Subject: [TI] Fwd: Reunion 2018 Chicago In-Reply-To: <796VJimo34288S07.1507551354@web07.cms.usa.net> References: <796VJimo34288S07.1507551354@web07.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: <000201d342da$bac1e790$3045b6b0$@earthlink.net> 10-11-17 It's been awhile since I have attended the yearly gatherings. I think this is one I'd like to attend w/the Columbus attachment. Also, I have an older cousin who lives near Chicago that perhaps I could be able to see after many years of not seeing Chicago myself. Added note: Regarding the name of DiGiovanni this is my grandmother's maiden name. She became a Spagnolo married in 1906 in Termini. She arrived in N.Y, w/my grandfather and 6 children, my mother being the oldest. The final destination Des Moines, Iowa. The city where I was born. Maybe I can meet some DiGiovanni families since she was the only one who came to the U.S. that was ever known. Katherina Smith --Kathie katherinas at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: JAL [mailto:amborocco at usa.net] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 5:16 AM To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org Subject: Re: [TI] Fwd: Reunion 2018 Chicago As one who has never participated in any of the activities of this group, I will definitely plan to attend this. In addition, I will convene our clan for our annual extended Amato/DiGiovanni family reunion in Chicago at that time. I lived in Italy for many years and visited Termini many times, taking family members there. My wife and I have religiously followed all the emails in this thread. It has enabled us to be in contact with other relatives we were unaware of, some of whom live in our area. We will try to lure them to Chicago as well for a grand reunion. Look forward to this event. Jim Larocco Note: My mother's grandmother was a DiGiovanni who packed up her kids and sailed to Boston after her husband died in a storm while fishing off the coast of Termini. Talk about a brave woman! I suspect whatever genes she had are responsible for all the strong women in our extended family who came after her. My father was born in Chicago and our family was raised there. Their five kids resulted in a large number of grandkids and great grandkids still calling Chicago home. Delighted that the reunion is there. ------ Original Message ------ Received: Mon, 09 Oct 2017 07:10:58 AM EDT From: Vonnihondra To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org Subject: Re: [TI] Fwd: Reunion 2018 Chicago That weekend would work for me - Yvonne Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 8, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Laura Johnson wrote: > > PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE AND RESPOND TO IT. > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Reunion 2018 Chicago > Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:15:29 +0000 (UTC) > From: Scott Mascheri > Reply-To: smas1973 at yahoo.com > To: rngade57 at madisontelco.com > > > > ***" Please Read need a email back your thoughs ***** > > As I have been telling everybody that talks to me about the reunion in Chicago and about Termini Imerese. I have said I have big plans. > > Last night I sat down with a official from Termini Imerese. There are > a few in Chicago for the Columbus parade. They will be participating in the parade with the sister city of Elk Grove Village. With big things to come. > > With that being said for the 2018 reunion I am thinking to have it the Thursday's to Saturday the 4 the to the 6th of October. the weekend of Columbus Day on the 8th. The reason for that is the Mayor of Termini Imerese and Many other officials will be in Chicago for the Parade. With meeting last night they would like to be part of our reunion. I have another meeting with the president of the organization for the sister city Elk Grove Village. Mr. Gullo. To have them part of our reunion next year. They have 2 floats that are in the Parade that who ever wants to stay until Monday for the parade can participate. > > I am going to be in Termini Imerese the 19 to the 22 of this month. I > did have a meeting put together about things to help us on researching and other things. But after last night I will be having another meeting with more officials in TI to work with then hand in hand in different things. Big things and projects in the works. > > I am working hard to open many doors for us in TI with Researching > Visiting and so much more. > > So please comment below to give me your opinion on changing the date > from September to October. The date change is for a big step for our group. > > Thank you Scott. > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > _______________________________________________ > TerminiImerese mailing list > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org _______________________________________________ TerminiImerese mailing list TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org From hjenkins at sw.rr.com Thu Oct 12 21:27:54 2017 From: hjenkins at sw.rr.com (BJenkins) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 13:27:54 -0500 Subject: [TI] Fwd: Reunion 2018 Chicago In-Reply-To: <8da50ca5-bde8-12f9-5202-af1722589b49@madisontelco.com> References: <1301818833.3937960.1507515329323@mail.yahoo.com> <8da50ca5-bde8-12f9-5202-af1722589b49@madisontelco.com> Message-ID: <2EDFEDB07F1E4A77AFA1719B60FB3516@OwnerPC> Sounds good to me. Hope to be able to attend. Barbara Jenkins -----Original Message----- From: Laura Johnson Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2017 9:17 PM To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org Subject: [TI] Fwd: Reunion 2018 Chicago PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE AND RESPOND TO IT. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Reunion 2018 Chicago Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:15:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Scott Mascheri Reply-To: smas1973 at yahoo.com To: rngade57 at madisontelco.com ***" Please Read need a email back your thoughs ***** As I have been telling everybody that talks to me about the reunion in Chicago and about Termini Imerese. I have said I have big plans. Last night I sat down with a official from Termini Imerese. There are a few in Chicago for the Columbus parade. They will be participating in the parade with the sister city of Elk Grove Village. With big things to come. With that being said for the 2018 reunion I am thinking to have it the Thursday's to Saturday the 4 the to the 6th of October. the weekend of Columbus Day on the 8th. The reason for that is the Mayor of Termini Imerese and Many other officials will be in Chicago for the Parade. With meeting last night they would like to be part of our reunion. I have another meeting with the president of the organization for the sister city Elk Grove Village. Mr. Gullo. To have them part of our reunion next year. They have 2 floats that are in the Parade that who ever wants to stay until Monday for the parade can participate. I am going to be in Termini Imerese the 19 to the 22 of this month. I did have a meeting put together about things to help us on researching and other things. But after last night I will be having another meeting with more officials in TI to work with then hand in hand in different things. Big things and projects in the works. I am working hard to open many doors for us in TI with Researching Visiting and so much more. So please comment below to give me your opinion on changing the date from September to October. The date change is for a big step for our group. Thank you Scott. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android _______________________________________________ TerminiImerese mailing list TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org From laura at termini-imerese.org Sat Oct 14 03:56:44 2017 From: laura at termini-imerese.org (Laura) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 19:56:44 -0500 Subject: [TI] SUBMITTER NOTES FOR PEOPLE IN CERTIFICATE DATABASE Message-ID: <4b75ed5b-9b22-a79e-4c14-72c61bd9df8a@termini-imerese.org> In the past we tried to help others in the who research in the database by submitting information about people in the database who left Termini Imerese and died or were married outside of Termini Imerese.? Several of you have submitted your information to be included in the database.? There are? about 80 entries in the database that now contain information regarding where the person died or married outside of Termini.? Thanks to those who submitted their information. But since we did this in 2010, we have had many new subscribers to both the mailing list and the database and I think we need to get their information as well. To submit your information, please follow these instructions carefully. 1.? These additions can only be for entries that are for people already found in the CERTIFICATE DATABASE. 2.? NO LIVING PERSON'S information can be allowed for privacy reasons.? Although it is not likely that this will happen often, there is still the possibility that someone born between 1900 and 1910 could still be living 3.? Entries can ONLY be SUBMITTED through the following email address: ??????????????????? Laura at termini-imerese.org _DO NOT SEND THE ENTRIES TO THE MAILING LIST_ 4. USE THE UNIQUE ID number from the database to tell me EXACTLY which document the information is to be added to.? If you do not have a subscriptions, please tell me as much info as possible about the person you want me to put a note on. 5.? If the info is for a Death - tell me the date of death, place of death, add info regarding spouse (name, date of marriage and place of marriage).? If their marriage is in the database, please tell me the marriage UNIQUE ID NUMBER from the database and I can attach the death information to it as well so that it will be available whether you see the birth or marriage record. 6.? If the info is for a marriage - tell me the name of the spouse, date of the marriage, place of marriage and names of parents of both bride and groom 7.? Data submitted will be added to the database in the order is is received.? I will try to get as many added as possible as quickly as possible between each update to the database. 8. You can submit your data via email in a variety of formats: just in an email, or by using Word, Works, Excel,? or PDF files. If you don't see a format here that you use, then email me at Laura at termini-imerese.org and ask me if I can accept your format. 10.? When the data goes into the database, it will be identified as follows: All submitter notes will be prefaced by the an identifier "SubNote" and be place in the square brackets [ ] which indicates that this information cannot be found on the actual document. ????????? For example.? Using my great-grandparent's data, I would add the following: ????????? To his birth record in 1863: ????????? [SubNote:? Death Feb 26, 1937, Staunton, IL.? Spouse Maria D'Attilo] ????????? To her birth record in 1874: ????????? [SubNote:? Death Nov. 5, 1950, Staunton, IL? Spouse Saverio Sansone] ????????? To their marriage record: ????????? [SubNote:? Saverio:? Death Feb 26, 1937, Staunton, IL; Maria:? Death Nov.5, 1950, Staunton, IL] From pjcaito at rochester.rr.com Sat Oct 14 06:18:07 2017 From: pjcaito at rochester.rr.com (pjcaito at rochester.rr.com) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 23:18:07 -0400 Subject: [TI] Fwd: Reunion 2018 Chicago In-Reply-To: <8da50ca5-bde8-12f9-5202-af1722589b49@madisontelco.com> Message-ID: <20171014031807.8W6TF.17207.root@cdptpa-web04> Having the Reunion to coincide with the visiting officials from Termini and with those folks of Elk Grove sounds like a good thing. My only concern is that the time we have on Saturday for getting together and reviewing trees with each other is really important for many people to connect their trees and just to talk. I would try to avoid planning too many other activities in the early morning on Saturday as that's when most of us spend the time reviewing each other's trees and making connections. At our Buffalo meeting, many of us were pouring over trees from 9 AM until 1 or 2 PM without stopping. Then there were the die-hards of us that were still going at 4 PM and feeling like there was more to do! We finally closed down at 4 PM but there were a few people's trees that I never got a chance to look at. So those are just my thoughts for Saturday. It certainly would be exciting to have the mayor of Termini there - and he should know about our group because when you think about it, we are the most active group concerned with the genealogical history of Termini in the United States - and for that matter - the World. Kind of amazing when you think about it, not to discount the work the LDS Church did to film the Civil Records to begin with. Paul Paul J. Caito Rochester, NY ---- Laura Johnson wrote: > PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE AND RESPOND TO IT. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Reunion 2018 Chicago Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:15:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Scott Mascheri Reply-To: smas1973 at yahoo.com To: rngade57 at madisontelco.com ***" Please Read need a email back your thoughs? ***** As I have been telling everybody that talks to me about the reunion in Chicago and about Termini Imerese. I have said I have big plans. Last night I sat down with a official from Termini Imerese. There are a few in Chicago for the Columbus parade. They will be participating in the parade with the sister city of Elk Grove Village. With big things to come. With that being said for the 2018 reunion I am thinking to have it the Thursday's to Saturday the 4 the to the 6th of October. the weekend of Columbus Day on the 8th.? The reason for that is the Mayor of Termini Imerese and Many other officials will be in Chicago for the Parade. With meeting last night they would like to be part of our reunion. I have another meeting with the president of the organization for the sister city Elk Grove Village. Mr. Gullo. To have them part of our reunion next year. They have 2 floats that are in the Parade that who ever wants to stay until Monday for the parade can participate. I am going to be in Termini Imerese the 19 to the 22 of this month. I did have a meeting put together about things to help us on researching and other things. But after last night I will be having another meeting with more officials in TI to work with then hand in hand in different things. Big things and projects in the works. I am working hard to open many doors for us in TI with Researching Visiting and so much more. So please comment below to give me your opinion on changing the date from September to October. The date change is for a big step for our group. Thank you Scott. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android _______________________________________________ TerminiImerese mailing list TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org From marilynmc at twcny.rr.com Sat Oct 14 18:13:22 2017 From: marilynmc at twcny.rr.com (Marilyn McNamara) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 11:13:22 -0400 Subject: [TI] Fwd: Reunion 2018 Chicago In-Reply-To: <20171014031807.8W6TF.17207.root@cdptpa-web04> References: <20171014031807.8W6TF.17207.root@cdptpa-web04> Message-ID: <9FBBD830-6F2B-4922-AD57-16AFE2DB9CAA@twcny.rr.com> Hoping to attend - and as Paul mentioned - the family tree connections and updates are my primary goal - thank you all for your work and esp. Laura's! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 13, 2017, at 11:18 PM, wrote: > > > Having the Reunion to coincide with the visiting officials from Termini and with those folks of Elk Grove sounds like a good thing. My only concern is that the time we have on Saturday for getting together and reviewing trees with each other is really important for many people to connect their trees and just to talk. I would try to avoid planning too many other activities in the early morning on Saturday as that's when most of us spend the time reviewing each other's trees and making connections. At our Buffalo meeting, many of us were pouring over trees from 9 AM until 1 or 2 PM without stopping. Then there were the die-hards of us that were still going at 4 PM and feeling like there was more to do! We finally closed down at 4 PM but there were a few people's trees that I never got a chance to look at. So those are just my thoughts for Saturday. > > It certainly would be exciting to have the mayor of Termini there - and he should know about our group because when you think about it, we are the most active group concerned with the genealogical history of Termini in the United States - and for that matter - the World. Kind of amazing when you think about it, not to discount the work the LDS Church did to film the Civil Records to begin with. > > Paul > > Paul J. Caito > Rochester, NY > > > ---- Laura Johnson wrote: >> PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE AND RESPOND TO IT. > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Reunion 2018 Chicago > Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:15:29 +0000 (UTC) > From: Scott Mascheri > Reply-To: smas1973 at yahoo.com > To: rngade57 at madisontelco.com > > > > ***" Please Read need a email back your thoughs ***** > > As I have been telling everybody that talks to me about the reunion in > Chicago and about Termini Imerese. I have said I have big plans. > > Last night I sat down with a official from Termini Imerese. There are a > few in Chicago for the Columbus parade. They will be participating in > the parade with the sister city of Elk Grove Village. With big things to > come. > > With that being said for the 2018 reunion I am thinking to have it the > Thursday's to Saturday the 4 the to the 6th of October. the weekend of > Columbus Day on the 8th. The reason for that is the Mayor of Termini > Imerese and Many other officials will be in Chicago for the Parade. With > meeting last night they would like to be part of our reunion. I have > another meeting with the president of the organization for the sister > city Elk Grove Village. Mr. Gullo. To have them part of our reunion next > year. They have 2 floats that are in the Parade that who ever wants to > stay until Monday for the parade can participate. > > I am going to be in Termini Imerese the 19 to the 22 of this month. I > did have a meeting put together about things to help us on researching > and other things. But after last night I will be having another meeting > with more officials in TI to work with then hand in hand in different > things. Big things and projects in the works. > > I am working hard to open many doors for us in TI with Researching > Visiting and so much more. > > So please comment below to give me your opinion on changing the date > from September to October. The date change is for a big step for our group. > > Thank you Scott. > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > > _______________________________________________ > TerminiImerese mailing list > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > TerminiImerese mailing list > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org From tcorso at lecom.edu Wed Oct 25 19:37:56 2017 From: tcorso at lecom.edu (Thomas Corso, PhD) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 16:37:56 +0000 Subject: [TI] Question to the TI group Message-ID: <47E7B1EBF603234EA15FB1851093ECDF2133046C@MAILSERVER01.lecomintra.net> Dear Friends (and cousins), In anticipation of the meeting in Chicago next year, I am hoping to see more activity on this site. I am interested in comparing Y-chromosome haplotypes and mitochondrial chromosome haplotypes for those of us that have done 23andMe, or a few others. I don't believe that Ancestry DNA gives out Y-chromosome information. I did both 23andMe and Ancestry. I'm also thinking about doing the National Geographic "Geno 2.0" as well, if they can provide information not found in the other two. I am most interested in knowing the Y-chromosome haplogroup (haplotype) for other Corso families, but also the other paternal (Y-chromosome DNA) and maternal (mitochondrial, mtDNA) lines. My Y-chromosome is R-M417, which is rather rare in Sicily (less than 5%). 1. According to 23andMe and consistent with other information I have, we come from genealogical "Adam" (our ~9000th great grandfather) who lived in East Africa about 275,000 years ago (haplogroup A). Due to genetic drift (mutations over time), other subgroups developed. 2. Most decedents of modern non-Africans migrated out of Africa to the Arabian peninsula about 76,000 years ago (haplogroup F-M89). Our ~2500th great grandfathers. 3. Then to South Asia (Indian sub-continent) about 53,000 years ago (haplogroup K-M9). Our ~ 1800th great grandfathers. 4. Then to central Asia (northern India/Afghanistan area) about 35,000 years ago (haplogroup R-M207). Our ~1200th great grandfathers. 5. Then to the middle east (Iraq, Israel, Turkey area) about 25,000 years ago (haplogroup R-M420). Our ~800th great grandfathers. 6. Then passed north through the Caucasus mountains (the Caucasians) settling north to the Black Sea area of southern Russia and the Ukraine (haplogroup R-M512) from 25,000 to 12,000 years ago. Our ~400th great grandfathers. 7. Around that same time, another subgroup (haplogroup R-M417) came to be, with most descendants now living in Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, middle east, central Asia and India. 8. I'm guessing at this point, that my line likely migrated to Norway about 1000 BC (my ~100th great grandfather), then to Normandy France by about 800 AD (my ~40th great grandfather). 9. Then sometime after 1066 AD was part of the Norman Invasion of Sicily. My ~30th great grandfather. I have my Termini line back to my 6th or 7th great grandfather, so I still have long way to go to verify the above story. We may never know for sure, but a fascinating possibility. Tom From clkonfetti at gmail.com Wed Oct 25 20:17:10 2017 From: clkonfetti at gmail.com (Carol Anne) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:17:10 -0400 Subject: [TI] Question to the TI group In-Reply-To: <47E7B1EBF603234EA15FB1851093ECDF2133046C@MAILSERVER01.lecomintra.net> References: <47E7B1EBF603234EA15FB1851093ECDF2133046C@MAILSERVER01.lecomintra.net> Message-ID: Tom, To the best of my knowledge, Family Tree DNA is the best DNA company to go to for Y-DNA testing. You want to test a minimum of 37 markers, more if you can afford it. You may even want a Big Y test. If so, you may possibly want to wait till the holiday sale. You also want to join the forum, or read it at least. You don't have to purchase a test to join the forum. So you can ask questions before you purchase. You can join the Sicily Y-DNA project. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/sicily/about/background You can save a little money maybe by joining the project first and ordering through the project. You could even start your own Termini project, if you wanted to. Carol Anne On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Thomas Corso, PhD wrote: > Dear Friends (and cousins), > > In anticipation of the meeting in Chicago next year, I am hoping to see more activity on this site. I am interested in comparing Y-chromosome haplotypes and mitochondrial chromosome haplotypes for those of us that have done 23andMe, or a few others. I don't believe that Ancestry DNA gives out Y-chromosome information. I did both 23andMe and Ancestry. I'm also thinking about doing the National Geographic "Geno 2.0" as well, if they can provide information not found in the other two. I am most interested in knowing the Y-chromosome haplogroup (haplotype) for other Corso families, but also the other paternal (Y-chromosome DNA) and maternal (mitochondrial, mtDNA) lines. > > My Y-chromosome is R-M417, which is rather rare in Sicily (less than 5%). > 1. According to 23andMe and consistent with other information I have, we come from genealogical "Adam" (our ~9000th great grandfather) who lived in East Africa about 275,000 years ago (haplogroup A). Due to genetic drift (mutations over time), other subgroups developed. > 2. Most decedents of modern non-Africans migrated out of Africa to the Arabian peninsula about 76,000 years ago (haplogroup F-M89). Our ~2500th great grandfathers. > 3. Then to South Asia (Indian sub-continent) about 53,000 years ago (haplogroup K-M9). Our ~ 1800th great grandfathers. > 4. Then to central Asia (northern India/Afghanistan area) about 35,000 years ago (haplogroup R-M207). Our ~1200th great grandfathers. > 5. Then to the middle east (Iraq, Israel, Turkey area) about 25,000 years ago (haplogroup R-M420). Our ~800th great grandfathers. > 6. Then passed north through the Caucasus mountains (the Caucasians) settling north to the Black Sea area of southern Russia and the Ukraine (haplogroup R-M512) from 25,000 to 12,000 years ago. Our ~400th great grandfathers. > 7. Around that same time, another subgroup (haplogroup R-M417) came to be, with most descendants now living in Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, middle east, central Asia and India. > 8. I'm guessing at this point, that my line likely migrated to Norway about 1000 BC (my ~100th great grandfather), then to Normandy France by about 800 AD (my ~40th great grandfather). > 9. Then sometime after 1066 AD was part of the Norman Invasion of Sicily. My ~30th great grandfather. > > I have my Termini line back to my 6th or 7th great grandfather, so I still have long way to go to verify the above story. > > We may never know for sure, but a fascinating possibility. > > Tom > > > _______________________________________________ > TerminiImerese mailing list > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org From clkonfetti at gmail.com Wed Oct 25 21:02:06 2017 From: clkonfetti at gmail.com (Carol Anne) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 14:02:06 -0400 Subject: [TI] Question to the TI group In-Reply-To: References: <47E7B1EBF603234EA15FB1851093ECDF2133046C@MAILSERVER01.lecomintra.net> Message-ID: My grandmother was from Termini. She had a brother, but I don't know any of his descendants, so I can't do a Y-DNA test on my Palmisano line. My grandfather was from Cappelle sul Tavo in Abruzzo. My father did a YDNA test and he is J-M172. He doesn't have a single match in Family Tree DNA's database. On my mother's side (not Italian), her nephew did a Y-DNA test. He did not get a single match to his own surname, but got several close matches to a different surname. Autosomal DNA testing eventually proved that my great-grandfather was not the son of my 2nd great-grandmother's husband, but the son of a neighbor. So, always be aware that Y-DNA testing can reveal surprising non-paternity events, and if those events occurred in the last couple of generations, families may have a hard time dealing with them. In our case, it had little effect as my great-grandfather was raised in an orphanage and died in 1937. The worst thing was that it destroyed 10 years of my genealogical research, which meant a lot of time and money! Carol Anne On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Carol Anne wrote: > Tom, > > To the best of my knowledge, Family Tree DNA is the best DNA company > to go to for Y-DNA testing. You want to test a minimum of 37 markers, > more if you can afford it. You may even want a Big Y test. If so, you > may possibly want to wait till the holiday sale. You also want to join > the forum, or read it at least. You don't have to purchase a test to > join the forum. So you can ask questions before you purchase. > > You can join the Sicily Y-DNA project. > https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/sicily/about/background You can > save a little money maybe by joining the project first and ordering > through the project. You could even start your own Termini project, if > you wanted to. > > Carol Anne > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Thomas Corso, PhD wrote: >> Dear Friends (and cousins), >> >> In anticipation of the meeting in Chicago next year, I am hoping to see more activity on this site. I am interested in comparing Y-chromosome haplotypes and mitochondrial chromosome haplotypes for those of us that have done 23andMe, or a few others. I don't believe that Ancestry DNA gives out Y-chromosome information. I did both 23andMe and Ancestry. I'm also thinking about doing the National Geographic "Geno 2.0" as well, if they can provide information not found in the other two. I am most interested in knowing the Y-chromosome haplogroup (haplotype) for other Corso families, but also the other paternal (Y-chromosome DNA) and maternal (mitochondrial, mtDNA) lines. >> >> My Y-chromosome is R-M417, which is rather rare in Sicily (less than 5%). >> 1. According to 23andMe and consistent with other information I have, we come from genealogical "Adam" (our ~9000th great grandfather) who lived in East Africa about 275,000 years ago (haplogroup A). Due to genetic drift (mutations over time), other subgroups developed. >> 2. Most decedents of modern non-Africans migrated out of Africa to the Arabian peninsula about 76,000 years ago (haplogroup F-M89). Our ~2500th great grandfathers. >> 3. Then to South Asia (Indian sub-continent) about 53,000 years ago (haplogroup K-M9). Our ~ 1800th great grandfathers. >> 4. Then to central Asia (northern India/Afghanistan area) about 35,000 years ago (haplogroup R-M207). Our ~1200th great grandfathers. >> 5. Then to the middle east (Iraq, Israel, Turkey area) about 25,000 years ago (haplogroup R-M420). Our ~800th great grandfathers. >> 6. Then passed north through the Caucasus mountains (the Caucasians) settling north to the Black Sea area of southern Russia and the Ukraine (haplogroup R-M512) from 25,000 to 12,000 years ago. Our ~400th great grandfathers. >> 7. Around that same time, another subgroup (haplogroup R-M417) came to be, with most descendants now living in Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, middle east, central Asia and India. >> 8. I'm guessing at this point, that my line likely migrated to Norway about 1000 BC (my ~100th great grandfather), then to Normandy France by about 800 AD (my ~40th great grandfather). >> 9. Then sometime after 1066 AD was part of the Norman Invasion of Sicily. My ~30th great grandfather. >> >> I have my Termini line back to my 6th or 7th great grandfather, so I still have long way to go to verify the above story. >> >> We may never know for sure, but a fascinating possibility. >> >> Tom >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TerminiImerese mailing list >> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org >> http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org From sreif1956 at comcast.net Thu Oct 26 19:27:51 2017 From: sreif1956 at comcast.net (Sharon Reif) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 11:27:51 -0500 Subject: [TI] Question to the TI group In-Reply-To: <47E7B1EBF603234EA15FB1851093ECDF2133046C@MAILSERVER01.lecomintra.net> References: <47E7B1EBF603234EA15FB1851093ECDF2133046C@MAILSERVER01.lecomintra.net> Message-ID: <003101d34e77$5f132000$1d396000$@net> I ordered the Living DNA test for my husband, who is not a bit Italian (at least I don't think so). We don't have his results back yet. However, I know that this test covers quite extensively both Maternal and Paternal lines. Total disclosure: my company, www.ancestorstuff.com, is an affiliate of Living DNA. I plan to share with my customers when we get these results returned. Also, I did test myself with Ancestory DNA. I have so many links to so many other testers. It confirmed stuff I already knew. And, connected me with my father's Austro-Hungarian side. Very cool. My sister tested with 23 and Me. She had more information about her Austro-Hungarian genes than I did. Yet, she has less information about her Sicilian line. Apparently I am more Sicilian, Middle Eastern, Italian, etc. than she is. But then, she looks like our father, and I look like our mother. Pick a test and go for it! Sharon Reif -----Original Message----- From: TerminiImerese [mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Corso, PhD Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 11:38 AM To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org Subject: [TI] Question to the TI group Dear Friends (and cousins), In anticipation of the meeting in Chicago next year, I am hoping to see more activity on this site. I am interested in comparing Y-chromosome haplotypes and mitochondrial chromosome haplotypes for those of us that have done 23andMe, or a few others. I don't believe that Ancestry DNA gives out Y-chromosome information. I did both 23andMe and Ancestry. I'm also thinking about doing the National Geographic "Geno 2.0" as well, if they can provide information not found in the other two. I am most interested in knowing the Y-chromosome haplogroup (haplotype) for other Corso families, but also the other paternal (Y-chromosome DNA) and maternal (mitochondrial, mtDNA) lines. My Y-chromosome is R-M417, which is rather rare in Sicily (less than 5%). 1. According to 23andMe and consistent with other information I have, we come from genealogical "Adam" (our ~9000th great grandfather) who lived in East Africa about 275,000 years ago (haplogroup A). Due to genetic drift (mutations over time), other subgroups developed. 2. Most decedents of modern non-Africans migrated out of Africa to the Arabian peninsula about 76,000 years ago (haplogroup F-M89). Our ~2500th great grandfathers. 3. Then to South Asia (Indian sub-continent) about 53,000 years ago (haplogroup K-M9). Our ~ 1800th great grandfathers. 4. Then to central Asia (northern India/Afghanistan area) about 35,000 years ago (haplogroup R-M207). Our ~1200th great grandfathers. 5. Then to the middle east (Iraq, Israel, Turkey area) about 25,000 years ago (haplogroup R-M420). Our ~800th great grandfathers. 6. Then passed north through the Caucasus mountains (the Caucasians) settling north to the Black Sea area of southern Russia and the Ukraine (haplogroup R-M512) from 25,000 to 12,000 years ago. Our ~400th great grandfathers. 7. Around that same time, another subgroup (haplogroup R-M417) came to be, with most descendants now living in Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, middle east, central Asia and India. 8. I'm guessing at this point, that my line likely migrated to Norway about 1000 BC (my ~100th great grandfather), then to Normandy France by about 800 AD (my ~40th great grandfather). 9. Then sometime after 1066 AD was part of the Norman Invasion of Sicily. My ~30th great grandfather. I have my Termini line back to my 6th or 7th great grandfather, so I still have long way to go to verify the above story. We may never know for sure, but a fascinating possibility. Tom _______________________________________________ TerminiImerese mailing list TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org From clkonfetti at gmail.com Tue Oct 31 19:03:06 2017 From: clkonfetti at gmail.com (Carol Anne) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 13:03:06 -0400 Subject: [TI] Question to the TI group In-Reply-To: <003101d34e77$5f132000$1d396000$@net> References: <47E7B1EBF603234EA15FB1851093ECDF2133046C@MAILSERVER01.lecomintra.net> <003101d34e77$5f132000$1d396000$@net> Message-ID: I would never do a DNA test merely to get ethnicity results. They are not very accurate. If you test at 3 different companies, you'll get 3 different results, and if you play with the ethnicity calculators at Gedmatch, you'll get a few more. Ethnicity calculations started out as a fun little freebee that you got with your real results - your list of "cousins". Ancestry found they could sell lots of tests based on ethnicity instead of on hard work triangulating DNA segments of matches. They said most of their customers were too stupid (not how they put it, but that's what it meant) to use a chromosome browser, therefore they won't even provide one. On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Sharon Reif wrote: > I ordered the Living DNA test for my husband, who is not a bit Italian (at > least I don't think so). We don't have his results back yet. However, I > know that this test covers quite extensively both Maternal and Paternal > lines. Total disclosure: my company, www.ancestorstuff.com, is an > affiliate of Living DNA. I plan to share with my customers when we get > these results returned. > > Also, I did test myself with Ancestory DNA. I have so many links to so many > other testers. It confirmed stuff I already knew. And, connected me with > my father's Austro-Hungarian side. Very cool. > > My sister tested with 23 and Me. She had more information about her > Austro-Hungarian genes than I did. Yet, she has less information about her > Sicilian line. Apparently I am more Sicilian, Middle Eastern, Italian, etc. > than she is. But then, she looks like our father, and I look like our > mother. > > Pick a test and go for it! > Sharon Reif > > -----Original Message----- > From: TerminiImerese [mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On > Behalf Of Thomas Corso, PhD > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 11:38 AM > To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org > Subject: [TI] Question to the TI group > > Dear Friends (and cousins), > > In anticipation of the meeting in Chicago next year, I am hoping to see more > activity on this site. I am interested in comparing Y-chromosome haplotypes > and mitochondrial chromosome haplotypes for those of us that have done > 23andMe, or a few others. I don't believe that Ancestry DNA gives out > Y-chromosome information. I did both 23andMe and Ancestry. I'm also > thinking about doing the National Geographic "Geno 2.0" as well, if they can > provide information not found in the other two. I am most interested in > knowing the Y-chromosome haplogroup (haplotype) for other Corso families, > but also the other paternal (Y-chromosome DNA) and maternal (mitochondrial, > mtDNA) lines. > > My Y-chromosome is R-M417, which is rather rare in Sicily (less than 5%). > 1. According to 23andMe and consistent with other information I have, we > come from genealogical "Adam" (our ~9000th great grandfather) who lived in > East Africa about 275,000 years ago (haplogroup A). Due to genetic drift > (mutations over time), other subgroups developed. > 2. Most decedents of modern non-Africans migrated out of Africa to the > Arabian peninsula about 76,000 years ago (haplogroup F-M89). Our ~2500th > great grandfathers. > 3. Then to South Asia (Indian sub-continent) about 53,000 years ago > (haplogroup K-M9). Our ~ 1800th great grandfathers. > 4. Then to central Asia (northern India/Afghanistan area) about 35,000 years > ago (haplogroup R-M207). Our ~1200th great grandfathers. > 5. Then to the middle east (Iraq, Israel, Turkey area) about 25,000 years > ago (haplogroup R-M420). Our ~800th great grandfathers. > 6. Then passed north through the Caucasus mountains (the Caucasians) > settling north to the Black Sea area of southern Russia and the Ukraine > (haplogroup R-M512) from 25,000 to 12,000 years ago. Our ~400th great > grandfathers. > 7. Around that same time, another subgroup (haplogroup R-M417) came to be, > with most descendants now living in Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, middle > east, central Asia and India. > 8. I'm guessing at this point, that my line likely migrated to Norway about > 1000 BC (my ~100th great grandfather), then to Normandy France by about 800 > AD (my ~40th great grandfather). > 9. Then sometime after 1066 AD was part of the Norman Invasion of Sicily. > My ~30th great grandfather. > > I have my Termini line back to my 6th or 7th great grandfather, so I still > have long way to go to verify the above story. > > We may never know for sure, but a fascinating possibility. > > Tom > > > _______________________________________________ > TerminiImerese mailing list > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org > > > _______________________________________________ > TerminiImerese mailing list > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org